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Re: Cable "Snake Oil"
#22912 10/23/03 04:42 PM
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In case anyone is interested, there is a cool little "tit for tat" going on RIGHT HERE!

Settle down, boys...

Re: Cable "Snake Oil"
#22913 10/23/03 05:23 PM
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Yes, you're making baby Jesus cry.

Re: Cable "Snake Oil"
#22914 10/23/03 06:42 PM
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Trust your ears!


Enjoy the Music. Trust your ears. Laugh at Folks Who Claim to Know it All.
Re: Cable "Snake Oil"
#22915 10/23/03 07:25 PM
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That's why I read scientific papers out loud.

Re: Cable "Snake Oil"
#22916 10/23/03 11:02 PM
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Because sensory perception has ever been shown to be reliable?

Re: Cable "Snake Oil"
#22917 10/23/03 11:15 PM
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It's not like a pilot flying in the fog or dark deciding whether to trust his instruments or inner ear. I can tell you the absolutely correct answer to that question.

However, when it comes to trusting theory or your ears as to audio equipment, the answer is equally clear - trust your ears - one of the organs of musical joy. Please your ears (brain/ear thing) because it's the experience which pleases, not some dry, abstract data set based on electrical engineering principals which are not adequate to model what makes reproduced music sound good or not.

For guys, are you going to date a gal based on her stats, or how being with her makes you feel? Only one right answer there as well.

Trust your ears and enjoy the MUSIC, not the stats.


Enjoy the Music. Trust your ears. Laugh at Folks Who Claim to Know it All.
Re: Cable "Snake Oil"
#22918 10/23/03 11:34 PM
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depends how old you are!

Re: Cable "Snake Oil"
#22919 10/23/03 11:50 PM
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In reply to:

However, when it comes to trusting theory or your ears as to audio equipment, the answer is equally clear - trust your ears - one of the organs of musical joy. Please your ears (brain/ear thing) because it's the experience which pleases, not some dry, abstract data set based on electrical engineering principals which are not adequate to model what makes reproduced music sound good or not.




And whind up with 10k speaker wire while spouting off stupidity about shielding.

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For guys, are you going to date a gal based on her stats, or how being with her makes you feel? Only one right answer there as well.




Analogies != arguments largely because they're usually idiotic and easily discarded as invalid. Using the example of something already known to be a subjective situation presumes the outcome.

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Trust your ears and enjoy the MUSIC, not the stats.




And spend money on worthless things because you're expecting an outcome and convincing yourself that its true in order to justify your idiotic purchase.

Re: Cable "Snake Oil"
#22920 10/24/03 12:19 AM
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She canna take no more of this, cap'n! Aye, if she hear one more ear vs. science argument, she's likely ta blow!

Regardless of your chosen path. It's the ends that matter, not the means.

Now SHUT IT!

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Re: Cable "Snake Oil"
#22921 10/24/03 03:25 AM
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For guys, are you going to date a gal based on her stats, or how being with her makes you feel? Only one right answer there as well.

Analogies != arguments largely because they're usually idiotic and easily discarded as invalid. Using the example of something already known to be a subjective situation presumes the outcome.




I think it's a great analogy because both instances have more to do with emotion and the heart than with quantitative analysis.

Some of you seem to have missed the apples-to-apples comparison. I provided an example where we have two factually-different types of apples. But it is possible to conduct experiments and find no difference. Maybe what's more important is the answer to the last question I posed: what can the experimenter conclude? The answer is "nothing."

-Cooper

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