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Re: Premature e-jubilation....
EFalardeau #232007 11/28/08 09:51 PM
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Thanks Eric!

I actually HAVE wondered about something new with the Trinnov processor, but God knows if it would really help with my OUR rooms. And it's unlikely that I could even get the Sherwood receiver for what the Denon could be had for. I wouldn't be surprised if it couldn't be had for under $1700!

So you voted "wait", and it was mentioned on another thread that Sound Quality of the new formats is even more impressive than the Picture Quality?

I'd say that's one vote for each!


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Re: Premature e-jubilation....
EFalardeau #232008 11/28/08 09:52 PM
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Mark, the Denon is really hard to beat in terms of features. Yeah, I didn't need a new receiver either, but I sure am glad I got this one. It's really cleaned up my wiring with the simple HDMI hook-up.

As far as the audio differences with the new HD formats, I can't say I've noticed night and day improvements. If anything the newer formats are mixed louder so they appear better right off. I really need to compare the same Blu-ray and SD disc to come to a final conclusion.


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St_PatGuy #232009 11/28/08 09:53 PM
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OK. I'll wait here, you go ahead.....


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MarkSJohnson #232012 11/28/08 09:55 PM
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Um, I just warmed up my tube amps. . .


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MarkSJohnson #232015 11/28/08 10:06 PM
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My "wait" is more linked to your potential future situation. I also like "progression". The title you will love with Blu-ray now will become a new WOW experience the second time around!


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St_PatGuy #232020 11/28/08 10:17 PM
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 Originally Posted By: St_PatGuy
As far as the audio differences with the new HD formats, I can't say I've noticed night and day improvements.


Ditto that from my perspective Mark.


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MarkSJohnson #232041 11/29/08 03:09 AM
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I think you will really enjoy the 3808 Mark and with the free upgrade you'll get from Denon maybe it can fix your somewhat less than perfect room. Why wait when you have approval from the boss?


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I say stick with your current receiver and buy a big ass amp.


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MarkSJohnson #232054 11/29/08 03:48 AM
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Mark, note again the listening tests, blind and otherwise, in Home Entertainment which have been cited here a few times and which indicate that the improved DD and DTS tracks on Blu-ray discs are now good enough as formats so that they're nearly indistinguishable from the DD and DTS HD tracks. Individual discs can of course vary in their results.


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JohnK #232071 11/29/08 12:43 PM
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 Originally Posted By: JohnK
Individual discs can of course vary in their results.


Reading this article again reminded me of a question I wanted to ask... I apologize if this has already been covered, if so I can't remember the answer.

Is it a fair assumption that the lossless audio tracks (PCM or DTS-MA, etc.) are actually the same mix as the lossy track? i.e. do the engineers first create the lossless audio mix and then run this source mix through the Dolby Digitial compression engine to create the lossy version, or are there two different source tracks to begin with? If it is the latter, it would seem that doing an A/B comparison on the effects of compression in your home is impossible. That's not to say you can't determine if there is a difference in quality between the tracks yourself, but if the source mix isn't the same, the differences might not be only from the effect of compression.

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