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Sroode, what two subs do you have again?

2 EP500's. I have a BFD, and have tuned my room.

You suck!


It's not the price of another EP500, it's the fact that my neighbors would shoot me if I added another sub. The pain of living in a condo! But then again, it's snowing outside and I don't have to shovel it tomorrow!

It's right here:
http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showgallery&Number=206049

SRoode,
You gotta do something about that tiny screen, no?

Looks very very nice!

I think there is a misconception of ideas going on here.
I am not advocating that people use their main speakers without a subwoofer to play all bass frequencies.
Nothing is "lost" by running your mains on large in conjunction with a sub. The subwoofer still plays all frequencies below the roll off point and yes, in this configuration turning off a subwoofer would result in decreased bass.
That again is obvious.


As for lowering the burden on the receiver, again this concept of power is a moot point for the most part unless one's receiver is poorly under powered for what it is driving or someone wants big billy bob bass and cranks up the receiver to 80%+ power with +12dB on the bass knob. Secondly, people can use extra amps to 'offload' any excess power load, though i've never had any issues with my receiver smoking simply because i ran my mains on large.

My 6 year old Onkyo (not known for its prowess with power in the business) is still kickin and i've hit 105dB with the M60s at 12 foot distances running full range (all 5 channels).

The primary point goes back to this:
One does not need to set their system x-over at 80Hz to be in perfect alignment with the gods of sound and music and that all other configurations are somehow faulty.

Maybe unrelated, but today for the first time I drove my Denon into protection mode. I was working out on the other side of the house and had the system jamming in 7-channel stereo (around -10 or -5 dB on the gain control).

About 20 minutes into my workout, the music died. When I went to look, the front panel light (on the power button) was blinking red. Toggled it on/off and it came right back on, which I can only assume meant that I was indeed driving it too hard and it gave up on me after 20 minutes.

I had my mains set to full range.

Jason

PS: What's with all the hostility in this thread? Kumbaya everyone.

I never said I run my mains in large either. I run them in small, 80 Hz XO in the receiver, 150Hz XO in the sub.

And, I never said turning the subs off in this configuration would result in decreased bass (of course it would). I said turning the subs off and setting the mains for full range (i.e., the mains play it all. Receiver set for no sub) resulted in a very apparent loss of bass.

I have absolutely no hostility for anyone on this board. Just trying to share my experiences with all.

It's not hostility. Chess gets excited sometimes.