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Re: Pioneer Elite vsx-01txh
StuntGibbon #236358 12/22/08 04:58 PM
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It is an older PSB system that he has. It may be that his particular config is "off" as PSB makes fine products. Bottom line is I really, really enjoy the sound of the M22's, coupled with the QS8's I have a very accurate system and one that does everything I want very well.

Hypothetically you could run a test where 9 out of 10 say that his system sounds better than mine but that is their opinion and at the end of the day it's all about me :-)

Just want to make it clear that in no way am I slamming another vendors products, it's just that the sound of my setup is what I was searching for and rec'd. Gotta love it when a plan comes together.

Also, been discussed many times but with the M22's the thing that sealed it was when I properly calibrated and integrated my sub. A whole new world opened and playback was killer.

Back to original post I am re-doing my HT room and hope to have some pics available. I am building a riser, adding new seating, sconces, paint. Projector will not be here until after Christmas but that's fine. Want to have it ready for the new year's day bowls.

Especially the cotton bowl Wreck 'em Tech

Wishing all a great holiday

Re: Pioneer Elite vsx-01txh
StuntGibbon #236360 12/22/08 05:29 PM
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 Originally Posted By: StuntGibbon
 Originally Posted By: Micah
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My friend does not care for my Axiom's that much but when I go to his home I am just not that crazy about his rig which he raves about. That's fine, I smile and let him go on about them. That's lthe neat thing though everyone has their taste.



Just for shit's-n-giggles, what system is your buddy running that he feels is SOOO much better than yours? lol


Probably M80s and four EP600s...


Lol, well done sir!


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Re: Pioneer Elite vsx-01txh
kjs #236361 12/22/08 05:41 PM
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I listened to a few tower PSB's (no idea the models) at a local store with a dedicated h/t room and was underwhlemed to say the least. The room looked good, the speakers looked good, the price wasn't great and the sound made the final desicion. There was no wow factor, the speakers sounded laid back missing the high detail with a more pronounced mid presence. Not bad, just not the sound that I was looking for.

If anything, to me, they would be like the M3 but without the detail the M3 provides. I find the M3 a little laid back but it has a nice smooth sound and while the highs aren't as apparent as other Axioms I have or listened to, you still get very nice detail with them.


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Re: Pioneer Elite vsx-01txh
HAY #236372 12/22/08 07:25 PM
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Bingo HAY, that was my impression as well. Nothing wrong with the sound just different. My experience was the same in that it was a bit more laid back than what I like. I just didn't get that "sizzle" when I listened to them.

I also have M3's and think that they are a great speaker.

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HAY #236373 12/22/08 07:28 PM
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I like Pioneer Elite receivers.

I use a Pioneer Elite VSX-43TX as my pre-pro in my system. It is old; made in 2002, but it was a good receiver (~$1,000) in its day. I have three problems with it 1) it was made before the HDMI era, 2) it lacks an On-screen-display, and 3) it can't effectively power my M80's. Fine at low volumes, but the sound gets harsh and clippy as I'd reach 'loud' levels. The LPA-1 amp solved that. Before my M80's, I had a pair of M22's as mains and the 43TX worked beautifully with those.

1 and 2 are a not an issue with modern Elites, and I suspect that 3 might not be a problem either. I've read of a few others around here with newer Elites powering M80's without incident.

It continues to be an excellent receiver, other than my minor quibbles. Clean sound (never any hissing, popping, etc), relatively easy to setup, solid connectors & dials, has never required a reboot or otherwise hiccuped, etc. It just works. I've been very happy with it and really can't find any reason to upgrade to anything else until I take the leap into Blu Ray media. And when that eventually happens, if I get another receiver (rather than a real prepro), I will definitely start by looking at Pioneer Elite's offerings.



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Re: Pioneer Elite vsx-01txh
PeterChenoweth #236396 12/22/08 11:14 PM
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Good info Peter.

We are going to go ahead and take the Blue Ray leap so upgraded receiver is a must. Just ask my loving wife who was convinced that we needed a new "brain". And after all 20 years of marriage has taught me that I should never argue with such sound reasoning and logic.

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kjs #236397 12/22/08 11:20 PM
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Enjoy your new "brain."

Unless you're also an electronic drummer, then brain doesn't need the quotes.

Re: Pioneer Elite vsx-01txh
StuntGibbon #236403 12/23/08 12:35 AM
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that was a direct quote from my lovely wife. She has also used the terms "stereo", "thingy", "home theater" and "miserable POS". The latter is a reference to the fact that it is an older receiver and not as user friendly as what it could be. It's an older Newcastle and if you hit the power button instead of the standby it clears all of your settings. So what that means is the next time it's turned on you have to start over with the setting aargh. However, it's a nice, powerful piece of equipment that will serve me nicely in the bedroom. Wait, that sounds kind of bad doesn't it? OK, it's a receiver that I will be utilizing to power the M3's in my bedroom setup.

Re: Pioneer Elite vsx-01txh
kjs #236492 12/23/08 03:08 PM
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Wow, that power-button "feature" is quite an example of brilliant design! "Miserable POS" about covers it. ;\)


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