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Re: W22's or M60's?
Parin #238577 01/07/09 03:28 AM
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Parin, it would be a bit better to sit a little closer than 15'(e.g., 10-12'), since there's a partial bass null directly in the center of the room. Then, if you go with a 7.1 setup(you have plenty of space behind the seats to form a rear soundfield with the back speakers), the side surrounds should be directly to the side of the listening position and the back surrounds on the back wall, separated by about as much as the distance that they're behind the seats. All the surrounds should be 2-3' above ear level.

I'll add that since you may have enough room beneath the screen, you should consider a vertical M22, M60 or even M80 for the center speaker.


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Re: W22's or M60's?
JohnK #238578 01/07/09 03:38 AM
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John makes a good point I didn't think about regarding bass nulls. In my research, the ideal position is 38% from the front wall, if this is not possible 38% from the back wall works well. The exact center is not good, but sometimes you have no choice.


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Re: W22's or M60's?
fredk #238701 01/07/09 05:26 PM
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 Originally Posted By: fredk
The 12 gage monsters (not TM) in my livingroom are kind of a pita to handle.
Should have bought Axiom wire


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Re: W22's or M60's?
jakewash #238729 01/07/09 07:02 PM
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Yep.


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Re: W22's or M60's?
fredk #238736 01/07/09 07:21 PM
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My 12 guage from Home Depot is like working with rebar. I'd even suggest wearing gloves when working with the bare ends.

On the opposite end of the scale, my Monoprice 12 guage, even with the in wall sheathing, is extremely workable.


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Re: W22's or M60's?
Murph #238754 01/07/09 08:20 PM
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And the Monoprice wire doesn't even come close to the pliability of the Axiom wire. \:\)


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Re: W22's or M60's?
Murph #238774 01/07/09 09:14 PM
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If I sit 10-12', how big a projector screen can i get? How about if I go 15'?

Re: W22's or M60's?
Parin #238804 01/07/09 11:14 PM
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Depends on the projector. I would recommend you hang out at projectorcentral.com they have a calculator for each projector that will tell you what size screen you can get at any given distance.

My projector is 13ft back and I also sit about 13ft back (front row). My screen is either 105" diag for 16:9, or 130" diag for 2.35 material.


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Re: W22's or M60's?
SirQuack #239027 01/08/09 08:01 PM
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I have a 92" screen and sit 10' away. I would not want to be any closer than that for this size of screen.

Regarding pre-wiring, do yourself a favor and run a subwoofer cable (or a coax cable with an RCA termination) to several different points in the room. There is just no way to know where your sub(s) is/are going to sound best, and pre-wiring to at least 2-3 locations is going to save you a lot of heartache during setup.

Also, this positions you well for the possibility of two subs (either immediately or in the near future), which I think in your situation [huge room] could give you very noticeable improvement in sound. I'd do a sub run to each corner of the room at a minimum since you have the luxury of being able to do so now before the drywall is up.

Also be sure to run conduit (PVC pipe or corrugated tubing) from the main equipment rack location to your projector so that you can rerun cables in the future easily without tearing the walls apart.

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Re: W22's or M60's?
myrison #239085 01/09/09 02:54 AM
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Ok...so after reading the thread initially, I thought I would settle with the floorstanding m60's or 80's. But after more thought, I really want a clutter free look on the ground.

Went to the builder today...the room will be 28' long, 18' wide, 11' ceilings...so about 5500 cubic feet. Again pool table in the back of the room (bar on the side wall in that area, sofa will be placed approx 10-12' from the front wall, and i will be placing a 100' screen on the front wall)

Is the major problem I will have with the w22's over the floor standing is distortion at high levels? If that is the case, how many decibels are we talking? Aside from movie watching, I don''t plan on "blaring" music. I have 2 kids...no keg parties in store for me these days...

again...if I get the w22's with a complete 7.1 system and the EP500 sub, I feel that will that provide me a good amount of sound....any takers again?

I appreciate everyone's input!!

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