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Re: A Veil Has Been Lifted!!!!
jakewash #239426 01/10/09 09:19 PM
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I think that the seconds are just samples, customers returns, etc...I retunred a pair of M50's while I was deciding between the M50's and M80's, they were new, just opened them, try them, and place them back on the same box...


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Re: A Veil Has Been Lifted!!!!
sovkiller #239430 01/10/09 09:23 PM
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It doesn't say that.



Axiom Audio products go through a very extensive and demanding Quality Control process. Even the slightest blemish or element that may not even be noticable to the eye can cause the product to be unacceptable as a first. While our manufacturing facilities and processes are of the highest quality and reliability...the fact is that a few of our speakers just don't make it through our rigorous quality / appearance acceptance criteria.
This creates an incredible value opportunity for customers who are not stuck on absolute cosmetic perfection.

The products offered here may have a slight blemish, but they are absolutely PERFECT in every other aspect of their sound performance ---- they have absolutely no operational problems or sound performance issues, and come with the same 30-day Money-Back Guarantee and 5-Year Warranty on all our products.

Re: A Veil Has Been Lifted!!!!
BoB/335 #239432 01/10/09 09:26 PM
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SOV, you are incorrect. Axiom does not resale returns via Factory Outlet, they are new speakers that have minor possible nicks/flaws discovered during QC.


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Re: A Veil Has Been Lifted!!!!
BoB/335 #239444 01/10/09 09:35 PM
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OK, do not stone me alive, then would anybody can tell me what they do with the returned items? Just discart them? I'm just stating what constitutes a very common practice around, they call them: "open box", "B-stocks", etc....call them the way you want, but I will not beleive that they discart them...

Also as Paul have stated I have ordered myself a few times seconds, and they were perfect, no blemishes of any kind, not sure what they founded, and trust me that I'm very picky, and I'm saying they were just perfect...

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Re: A Veil Has Been Lifted!!!!
SirQuack #239445 01/10/09 09:37 PM
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It has been mentioned the returns are sold to friends, family etc of Axioms.


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Re: A Veil Has Been Lifted!!!!
jakewash #239448 01/10/09 09:40 PM
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
It has been mentioned the returns are sold to friends, family etc of Axioms.


Guys consider me as a very good friend for the future if you have any EP500 in black oak around..... ;\)


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Re: A Veil Has Been Lifted!!!!
sovkiller #239449 01/10/09 09:41 PM
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I think we have all tried that one \:\)


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Re: A Veil Has Been Lifted!!!!
jakewash #239460 01/10/09 10:08 PM
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Yep refurbished, b-stock, open box, etc. is different than new speakers with nicks/blemishes with full warranty.


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Re: A Veil Has Been Lifted!!!!
SirQuack #239462 01/10/09 10:18 PM
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack
Yep refurbished, b-stock, open box, etc. is different than new speakers with nicks/blemishes with full warranty.


In all those cases the items carry full warranty as well...

What is the difference between an open box returned after two days of use, in pristine condition, and an speaker that may be in the factory the same time opened, for inspection and reinspection...and then placed in the box, therei s more dust in the factory than in my home for sure...


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Re: A Veil Has Been Lifted!!!!
sovkiller #239468 01/10/09 11:20 PM
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The difference is the brutality of shipping on those speakers that have been in your home, more chances for something to be knocked off, broken, cracks in solder joints opening up, etc.


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