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Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets
BoB/335 #243018 01/27/09 11:27 AM
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I've been reading through that thread. Seems AV123 has a different problem in EVERY area of their forum. Seems the Rockets are good but how can you have any confidence in them when everything else is a problem.

Here is more from Jinx. btw I read the link here from '05. But first a quote from another AV123 member:

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i think you've been watching a little too much of the X-Files.

axiom probably isn't nearly as bad as you say, the reviewers have given av123 thumbs up even though they advertise there too, seaton is not a genius, and the two do not have comparable products.


oh trust me, Axiom is as bad as i say and then some. but if you don't believe me feel free to throw some money down the toilet and order some fo their speakers.

as for comparing av123 and axiom, they have similar sized products for sure such as the rs760's to the m60ti's but....size is all that is similar. the 2 are so far apart it's not even funny, and the axioms are way more money for so much less. personally, i am SHOCKED that more people do not send their products back..but then again..there's not accounting for taste, and i think a lot of people convince themselves that what they are hearing is better than it is cause others tell them it must be...and to justify the money they have spent.
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Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets
BoB/335 #243019 01/27/09 12:17 PM
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In short, he's a drama queen.

Everything is absolutely amazing or absolute garbage. He likes listening to himself. His opinion is what everyone should bow to, though he doesn't realize that blocking a speaker by putting a couch in front of it will affect the sound.

The future Mr. Blackwell.


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Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets
MarkSJohnson #243022 01/27/09 12:53 PM
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I just spent the last hour reading more of THAT thread in that OTHER forum. Boy do they have some problems over there. The MFW-15 that I was considering is nothing compared to the many other problems they have!

Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets
michael_d #243023 01/27/09 12:59 PM
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 Originally Posted By: mdrew
Listen to both, buy the set you prefer. These comparitive debates are pointless. It's impossible to tell anyone what kind of cool-aid they prefer.

If you want to know speciific information regarding Axiom products, ask away. You'll get specific responces.


I completely agree with Mike. Test them both and send back the one that you like the least. As far as the vinyl on the Axioms, I have used my vinyl M22s since 2003, and they look very good except for the bottom edges at the seams. If I had not moved them from being mains to surrounds to wall mounted surrounds to my brother-in-law's as TV speakers to my stand mounted surrounds, they probably would still look perfect. With that said, if looks of the speaker are critical to you, I would choose between the Vassalo line and the Rocket line (whichever sounds best to you).

Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets
BoB/335 #243024 01/27/09 12:59 PM
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I am, once again, concerned about the Axioms being too bright. Can one opinion outweigh all of you here? Well, they'll be here soon and then I'll know.

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Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets
MarkSJohnson #243027 01/27/09 01:52 PM
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 Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
In short, he's a drama queen.


Well said, and to thepoint, Mark.
Bob, sounds to me like you're going a little stir crazy there...I would suggest that the word bright is an erroneous description of several speaker lines. I feel most of these people are confusing 'bright' with 'detail', I'd rather hear a natural reproduction of music or sound effects, the way it was recorded. The sound of dropping a pile of change on a ceramic floor is irritating to the ears...it shouldn't be any difference then, if Al Pacino is the one who dropped them onscreen. The only speaker I auditioned that I could use the term bright was probably the Klipsch...Paradigm Studios go high too, but clearly. If some want to call that "bright", and a few do, then that's up to them. I know I want detail when I hear music or watch movies so I ordered the Axioms.


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Adrian #243029 01/27/09 02:16 PM
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Good lord, jinx again? Drama queen and complete idiot, good thing he's not around these parts anymore ... he'd make our best rednecks down here seem as if they held a degree from Yale.


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RickF #243031 01/27/09 02:27 PM
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Hey Rick,

Tell us how you really feel.

Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets
BoB/335 #243033 01/27/09 02:29 PM
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I think he was holding back, actually.


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Bob, here's a quote from the same moron back in 06.

"these Axiom speakers are not to be doubted...and MUST be heard to be believed...and i think others would RAVE about them if they cost $4000.00 or more, but since they are so inexpensive, and a real bargain i'd say, i think ppl discount them cause they believe that they can't possibly be as good as everyone says since they are so cheap. well...let me assure you my friends...and i'm sure KJohn will attest, they ARE just that good, and maybe even better, regardless of price."

No one should give this guys opinion any merit what so ever.

Here's more.

" THANK YOU Axiom...for making an amazing product, which really should cost more like 2000.00 a pair, but i'm glad they are not greedy."

I hope you get the point.


Rick


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