Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Stereo M22's or M60's with a subwoofer?

My main listening room is about 2600 ft3. I can tell a VERY noticeable difference when my subs are off, and only the M80s are playing (and switched to large). I do not feel that the M80s are overpowering for a room that size.

That being said, I think that once you have a good sub, either the M22s or M80s would be great.

Thats it!!! I'm setting my M80s up in my bathroom! Its gonna be great!!
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You certainly will be able to remove bran from your diet.

Well, my sub amplifier was fixed and I received it today. This evening I set it up in my 1925 cu ft room (with cathedral ceiling). The bass was overwhelming leading me to believe perhaps the 80's too may: 1) not have enough room to perform to its potential since there isn't sufficient separation from the side and back of the wall for it to breathe...2) It seems that I'd need to purchase an upgraded receiver for about $530 to drive the M80's and 3) most comments seem to be on track and consistent with A/B comparisons of M80' and M22 w/sub as being pretty equal. So I think the best route given my listening space is te3 M22's with a sub. My existing sub even he amp was fixed today blew a crossover circuit and made a sound that scarred the hell out of me this evening. And I am not as satisfied with it as much as I once thought. So my next questions are: Ho will the M60 perform it terms of a decent bass range and would it work well in a 1925 Cubic foot room adequately?

Well, my sub amplifier was fixed and I received it today. This evening I set it up in my 1925 cu ft room (with cathedral ceiling). The bass was overwhelming leading me to believe perhaps the 80's too may: 1) not have enough room to perform to its potential since there isn't sufficient separation from the side and back of the wall for it to breathe...2) It seems that I'd need to purchase an upgraded receiver for about $530 to drive the M80's and 3) most comments seem to be on track and consistent with A/B comparisons of M80' and M22 w/sub as being pretty equal. So I think the best route given my listening space is te3 M22's with a sub. My existing sub even though the amp was fixed today blew a crossover circuit and made a sound adn blew a little smoke that scarred the hell out of me this evening. And I am not as satisfied with it as much as I once thought I would be. So my next questions are: How will the M60 perform it terms of a decent full range speaker and would its range work well in a 1925 Cubic foot room adequately? If I go with the M22's, which Axiom subwoofer would be the best match? My room is acoustically sensitive and I could easily be overwhelmed with sound if not careful...so I need balance. Any suggestions would be welcome....Lee

Lee, I would go with the EP500 just for the flat response in a smaller room, it will help keep room effects to a minimum. IF the EP500 is too much money, then by all means get the EP350, it has a farily flat FR as well and is a great performer. I can't remember if this was for a 2 channel system or not? If it is, then I would also suggest the EP400, it is an amazing little sub and adds just the right amount of low end to music, IMO.

The other option would be to look into some other manufacturers subs, like the Paradigm DSP series which are great performers as well, just the finishes may not match unless you get black.

+1 for Jay's suggestions.

My suggestion would be to order a pair of M22's and try them out without a sub. You might be completely satisfied with their bass response in your small & bass-sensitive room. I know I am with my M22's. You can always order a sub later.

Having not heard *any* Axiom subs ( ) , my only experience is through that of others here. The EP500 is, by all accounts, an amazing sub. You can't go wrong with it. But I suspect that an EP500 is going to be overkill for that size of a room. Sure, it has a gain knob and you can always turn down the output to match the room. But other smaller, less-expensive subs might be a better match. If you've got the dough though, by all means, get an EP500.

I'd think that the EP400 is a perfect choice for your situation. I distinctly remember it being billed as 'the bedroom sub'. If that's still too pricey, I can't help but think that the subs you should be looking at are the EP125 or EP175, as those are the ones designed for smaller rooms.

If neither of those float your boat, you could take a look at HSU Research's subs, specifically the STF-1,STF-2, or VTF-1. I would assume that either of those would be equally great choices for your small room.

Good luck!

Given your comments, go with the M22 + sub. It will give you all the bottom end of the M80s for music (and then a bit) and will put you one step closer to an HT. You do want a sub for the HT.