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speaker of the house
#247042 02/15/09 08:40 PM
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Okay, I've got the tv, I've got the receiver, and now I really want to improve the sound. I've got a couple of friends that have Denon speakers and they sound great. But I have got to say that I am really curious to know how these Axiom's sound. Considering my family size and I am probably a bit impatient when it comes to things like this, I would only be replacing one piece at a time (or pair). My room is approx. 1250 cu ft. I have been looking at the VP150, M22, EP350, and not sure on the surrounds.

I did the wizard and it suggests the vp150, m22, qs8, ep500,or the same center and m2i and ep175, and qs4. Why would it make these pairs? The one thing I know for sure is the center. The question is which on should I replace first?


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audiodreamer #247046 02/15/09 09:02 PM
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I would start with the pair of M22s to see if you like the Axiom sound first. If you don't then it's a cheaper return shipping cost for you. If you like the sound, then buy the rest.

Just keep in mind with the M22s you will not get the deep bass until you support them with a sub. Audition them to determine if you like their tonal characteristics.


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audiodreamer #247047 02/15/09 09:10 PM
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I agree too. You could get the M22's and see if you like them and if not it would be cheaper to send them back during the 30-day trial period. I think that if you listened to them you will really like them, but again, you won't have the deep low end in any quality "bookshelf" speaker without a matching sub.

Denon makes good stuff, but that would be in their receivers, I didn't even know that they made speakers. Now, I am just guessing here, so you can take it or leave it, I won't bash you senseless as if I am a "know it all" like you may get elsewhere, but the Axioms should really be quite superior to Denon speakers as a whole, but not having model numbers to research, it would be hard to get specifics.

Anyway, as to what the configuration is coming up with, I don't know the dimensions of your room, but it is a volume equivalent to a 10x15 room with 8 foot ceilings. That is really close to the size of my room. I could easily have great sound with the M22 fronts, VP150 center, and QS8 surrounds, but I moved my setup into that room from a much larger area so I have M60 fronts. With that said, this combination is pretty solid for a "smaller" room like you mentioned. The sub may be something to consider "upgrading", but the EP350 is no slouch. Really, the EP350 and EP500 have the same size driver (12") and the same size "box", but 300 vs 500 watts and the 500 can go "deeper". I will let someone else speak about those since I've never compared the two.

I really like the QS8 surrounds, but the QS4's are good too. I just think that the QS8's would match the M22's much better since it uses the same speakers (5.25" and 1" vs the smaller 4" and 1" speakers of the QS4's).

You will get better matching sound timbre with the M22's if you pick the QS8's.

I hope that this helps somehow. Good luck, and keep the questions coming.

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SRoode #247051 02/15/09 09:40 PM
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"Speaker of the House," and "Those in the Know," I think you're a poet Corporal.

As to the M22s, I would not bother with them unless you already have a subwoofer. On their own, they are, IMHO, thin sounding. If you have a sub that will fill in the lower octaves, then you might find that the M22s shine.

I have some Mission speakers around (made by Denon I think). They make very nice speakers. I still use a pair of Mission DS77 surround speakers in my office system. They are wonderful!! I have a pair of QS8s in another system so I have a frame of reference for comparison.

I'd like to hear a shoot out between some Axiom M3s and M22s with some Wharfedalee Diamond 9.1s, Epos ELS-3s or ELS-8s, Focal Chorus 706s, KEF IQ10s, KEF IQ30s, and some Usher Tiny Dancers just for giggles.


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audiodreamer #247053 02/15/09 09:53 PM
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I hate to be the first to reply to my own thread, but oh well. If I went with the vp100 for my room size would I be as impressed or do I need to go with the 150.I currently have a sony center, from an old HTIB. Does not sound all that impressive. I currently have Polk audio T-15 for my L/R. I am not sure how it would sound or if it can be done, to make them be the center. I checked my manual, and it may work, but I don't know for how long. This would put me at 4ohms and I can only go down to 6 at full volume.


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audiodreamer #247054 02/15/09 09:59 PM
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I goofed on the speakers, I meant to say definitive. Not a poet, just tried to think of something kind of catchy or clever. (I have no idea)


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audiodreamer #247056 02/15/09 10:04 PM
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I think it would be hard for you to be disappointed in an Axiom rig if you were happy with the Denon you heard. I love Denon, but I have never heard them forging ahead in the speaker area outside their HTIB. I presumed they outsources those and just put their name on them. Anyway, my advice is to get bookshelf + sub if you are a bigger movie buff. I find towers are better at music. That is a broad overgeneralization ignoring cost and quality of any two competitors. But sometimes generalization helps make a decision when there really is no bad choice in the zone you are talking about.


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2x6spds #247057 02/15/09 10:08 PM
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As to the M22s, I would not bother with them unless you already have a subwoofer. On their own, they are, IMHO, thin sounding. If you have a sub that will fill in the lower octaves, then you might find that the M22s shine.[/code]
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I have a sub although I am not that impressed with it. It is the Energy ESW-8 It does okay for music I suppose, but for movies I am not crazy about it. In your opinion would this work with the M-22? I think that this the biggest bookshelf, and I really don't have the room for floor speaker

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audiodreamer #247059 02/15/09 10:40 PM
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I have had the M22s for a while without a sub, and I think you can really enjoy them without. Once a sub is included is when in my opinion they become phenomenal. I second the ideas to try it out, I love mine. Add a sub when you can


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thefwam #247061 02/15/09 10:57 PM
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As I sit hear with the Blue Man Group DVD-A wailing at 100dB I am reminded that a decent sub (which mine barely qualifies for in most circles) is really a dramtic peice of equipment. The impact added is probably the biggest bang for the buck. I don't know your budget, but I do have experience with that Energy sub in a big room, and I would recomend a good sub if you budget can handle it - they don't give those little bastards away.

Edit: with the sonic peaks in all 5.1 chans on this disk I may need a new sub, keep that little Energy handy!

Last edited by Zimm; 02/15/09 10:59 PM. Reason: cuz I hit 137 dB out of the QS8 - :)

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