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Re: Receiver problem
jakewash #248447 02/23/09 02:05 AM
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
Pick a price and features then look at the usual suspects we talk about, Denon, yamaha, onkyo, H/K, Outlaw, nad, etc. and go with the one you feel is the best bet. They all work extremely well

I hear you, but it is not my makeup to pick a price I can stan to spend and then go look for what fits the price. I want to spend as little as possible on what is needed to obtain flawless performance. That balance - $ v. performance - forces the list of options, etc. Why buy a BMW simply b/c I can, if the Honda would meet all my desires. If a $800 amp will do all I can hope to acheive in my stystem, why spend $2500. Chichen...egg...chicken. I guess that is why I'll spend over $1000 just to make sure i'm safe. Then again, that's how I got the Transparent wire - there must be a better way.
Oh well, I gather there is no tell-all spec and will just trust Denon and spend more than is likely needed to be safe. At least I know I have beat this horse all I can. But the first person to say "why did you get the 4308, the 1708 is all you could ever need" will get a ton of really mean looking smiley faces.


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Re: Receiver problem
Zimm #248449 02/23/09 02:08 AM
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Re: Receiver problem
Zimm #248460 02/23/09 02:22 AM
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Charles, when I first started looking at AVRs, I was looking primarily at the HK 354. I was on the verge of buying it until I started reading several complaints/problems re firmware. I got to know one of the salesman at one of our local HK dealers and asked him about this and also asked him what AVR he uses....answer..."Denon". (I know! an honest salesman!) Anyway, I wouldn't overthink your purchase too much, it'll make it harder and you'll probably buy what you started looking at in the first place. I've been told to look for an AVR with high current capability which Denon, HK and a few others are known for. At $1000 US, I don't think you could be disappointed with too many of the receivers on the market, there maybe one or two that stand out though. For me, Denon seemed like a safe bet.


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Re: Receiver problem
grantlyt #248466 02/23/09 02:44 AM
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Grant, your comparison with the 80 watt Marantz receiver gives additional confirmation(and would have been helpful if mentioned earlier)to the point already established: that you already have ample power since some sources play at an adequately loud level. The similarly-powered Marantz played "much louder" with your low level sources because it applied a higher gain(most likely at the pre-amplifier stage)so that its full capacity could be brought into play.

Your DG910 might have an unusually low gain pre-amplification section, either by design or possibly because of a defect in your particular unit. If the latter, of course repair should be considered as a warranty matter. If the problem is inherent in the design you should consider a unit with similar maximum power capability but with higher gain for low-level source material. You know at least one that fits that description!


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Re: Receiver problem
Adrian #248472 02/23/09 03:18 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
Anyway, I wouldn't overthink your purchase too much, it'll make it harder and you'll probably buy what you started looking at in the first place.

Yes, I agree. I started thinking I would replace my Denon 3300 with a Denon 3808. Then I considered all the tech knowledge here and thought better of it. Now, I'm back to where i started, Denon 3000 series. Funny thing is, I got the 3300 based on the magazine reviews.


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