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#248753 - 02/24/09 05:48 PM Decision time.....I've narrowed it down ....
Ghostmech Offline
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...to two systems. I'm considering either the Klipsch RF-83 HT system or the Axiom Epic 80 600 7.2. Now I know coming to an Axiom forum will illicit somewhat biased opinions but I'm hoping to hear from those of you that may have heard speakers from these or similar manufacturers and can comment on why Axiom over the Klipsch. I must admit, the Klipsch were first on my list and I almost pulled the trigger when I saw the ad for Axiom on AVS Forums. It seems that you get a lot of value for the money with Axiom.

I have a couple of questions too:

I see talk of brightness on the forums and many claim Klipsch are a bit too bright. I have also read that Axiom may be in that category, true?

I also am told that the Klipsch are very efficient speaker design and was wondering where the Axioms stand in this regard

BTW, Though I realize the best way to know which one sounds the best is to be able to demo them but that's not really feasible for me to listen to both systems since I live so far away from any dealers that carry either system/speakers.

Any input is appreciated.

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#248758 - 02/24/09 05:54 PM Re: Decision time.....I've narrowed it down .... [Re: Ghostmech]
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Klipsch tend to be brighter, yet more efficient than Axioms, but Axioms are pretty efficient.

I still don't describe Axioms as bright... revealing of flawed source material, sure.
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#248765 - 02/24/09 06:16 PM Re: Decision time.....I've narrowed it down .... [Re: Ken.C]
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Ghost, in addition to what Ken said (above), if you want to demo Axiom speakers you would do that at an Axiom customer's home in your area (if available), as you may/may not know, they are internet based and don't use a dealer network in regards to sales.
There are a number of speakers which some people claim to be bright, but everyone has a different perception of what that means. "Bright" is used generally, in a derogatory sense, where someone else may hear the same speaker and say "detailed" in a positive note. Listen to a few different types of speakers to find out what kind of sound you like, and go from there, if you can.
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#248766 - 02/24/09 06:19 PM Re: Decision time.....I've narrowed it down .... [Re: Adrian]
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I used to own some Klipsch RFII ??? floorstanding speakers about 6 years ago. I really liked them, but with time the Horn tweeter got to me as being bright/harsh to my ears on certain music.

Many call the Axiom's bright, but I don't hear that. They seem to faithfully recreate the music as the recording engineer intended. Now crap in might sound crappy on Axioms, but that is not the fault of the speaker. \:\)
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#248769 - 02/24/09 06:23 PM Re: Decision time.....I've narrowed it down .... [Re: Adrian]
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From your comments I'm assuming you haven't heard either. Buying speaker without listening is not a good idea. For ID companies like Axiom, you have 30 days to decide if you want to keep them. For BM speakers like Klipsch, you have to listen at the showroom (unless you can find a dealer willing to let you demo them in your home). You should find a few speakers you like locally, then order Axiom and try them. If you don't like them, you are out only a few dollars for shipping. You can always get the local speakers.

FWIW, Klispch gives me a headache. Axioms make me happy
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#248781 - 02/24/09 06:53 PM Re: Decision time.....I've narrowed it down .... [Re: dewd]
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I used to own a pair of Klipsch speakers years ago. I really liked them, but I think that the M60's I have now are smoother and have better imaging.

Unless you plan on sustaining very high SPL for extended periods, the efficiency question is pretty much moot in a home listening environment.
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