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Re: Help choosing speakers for 15x15 room
Adrian #250464 03/06/09 04:55 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
See, that's good imaging!!

Its the beak on top.


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Re: Help choosing speakers for 15x15 room
davekro #250469 03/06/09 05:27 AM
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 Originally Posted By: davekro
Adrian, this is just my opinion, but they seem too bright to me.


I think these might give you a flatter response.



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fredk #250491 03/06/09 12:52 PM
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Nice Fred, we haven't heard about the beaks for awhile! ;\)


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Re: Help choosing speakers for 15x15 room
StuntGibbon #250548 03/06/09 06:36 PM
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 Originally Posted By: StuntGibbon
I'll go ahead and doubt that you'll get the same imaging as the M80s. (I haven't heard any bookshelves that approach that scale).


;\) Oh, I don't know about that. Dynamic range; no chance. Bass; not even a question. Imaging; I'd say you can find many expensive bookshelf/monitors that can create better imaging than...well let's just say really good $1500 towers. No slight at all to the M80s - just recognition that there are some speakers out there that are world renowned for their imaging. Just say'en.


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Zimm #250549 03/06/09 06:42 PM
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I'd be happy to find some bookshelves that sound as good as the m80s in a home theater environment, since I've also been scouting for some bedroom system upgrades that take up much less space. I'm just skeptical I'll get similar results with how much power I've been throwing at my 80s.

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StuntGibbon #250559 03/06/09 07:24 PM
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Price an issue, or cost be damned? As I talked about above, I don't think you will find a $1500 monitor that would make ditch the M80s, in terms of imaging. But there are a lot of speakers out there that specialize in the audiophile realm in imaging. I could be wrong, but I think I could find a number of articles that put a monitor at the top of the speaker pile, regardless of price or cabinet. I'm sure others have opinions on this.


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Zimm #250561 03/06/09 07:48 PM
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Considering how close the M22s sound to the M80s I would say the M22 is a match to the imaging/sound quality that the M80 has, just minus the extreme low end.


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Re: Help choosing speakers for 15x15 room
jakewash #250563 03/06/09 08:01 PM
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I was curious so I dropped by the normal publications, and while they are not comparing monitors to M80s, some of the descriptions make clear the monitors tested rank pretty far up there in the speaker hierarchy in terms of clarity and imaging. I hate to post links to other speakers, but for the purpose of discussion of the image available from monitors v. towers, the following may be informative.
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As these reviews show, you can get a small speaker in your bedroom that should excite your ears - perhaps the M22!


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Re: Help choosing speakers for 15x15 room
Adrian #250569 03/06/09 08:50 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
If you go to the products page and go to one of the floorstanders for eg. then click on "photos" there is a good overhead shot of both the angled sides and the depth of the cabinets.


Adrian and JohnK, I hate to break it to you, but you are completely right. But it is not my fault. For a company dependant on its web page for sales, I find the Axiom page lacking. The best pics I have seen of Axiom speakers has been from owners on this forum. The website does little to entice you to upgrade your veneer as the samples are so hard to comprehend in life size application. Don't they have a 10mb pic of every form of the various options available?

And the shape, wow, all this time I thought the M80/60s had right angles at front and back. The measurements even "make that clear" by not differentiating the width at the front and back. That one pic Adrian pointed out shows the truth, but I'm not sure many see that. Most viewers would think (b/c I did!) that these are traditional rectangles. Contrast this with PSB, who is making the shape of its speaker a major point of marketing. (Granted, the PSB shape is a more radical departure and easier to photo, but still.) Come on Axiom, crank up the multimedia content of the site - it is your lifeblood and your competitors are not resting.


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Re: Help choosing speakers for 15x15 room
Zimm #250571 03/06/09 08:59 PM
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Because I had been to Axiom a few months ago, and seen the speakers first hand, I took the shape/depth of cabinet dimensioning forgranted. You're right, looking at the website, it doesn't really show this feature(to well) or at least it's not obvious.


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