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new old amp! :) urgent!!
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I currently have a pio vsx-1018 AVR with an axiom 5.1 setup. I currently have m22ti for my fronts but I'm planning to buy the m80 full towers.

I was shopping for an amplifier to drive my new front.

[URL="http://www.usersmanualguide.com/yamaha_audio/integrated_amplifiers/ax-930"]yamaha ax-930 manual[/URL]



would that be a nice amp or should I try to get something else. I don't want to break my piggy or should I?

I can get it for 200$ CDN, it's a 91-92 amp..

worth it?

thanks

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I also have two unused yamaha AVR and would it make sense to use one as a dedicated amp for my front?

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Luc, my opinion is that you should first try just the 1018 with the M80's to see if there is anything you don't like.

Then, if you decide you REALLY want to try using an external amp, I would not mess with older integrated amps or older AVR's. There is too much to go wrong over time with all the switches. And it is questionable to me that you would notice improvement over the amp section in your 1018.

For that much money, I would try to find either a decent used, dedicated power amp or a Refurb Onkyo M-282 at clubonkyo for $159US.


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tomtuttle #251929 03/16/09 05:09 PM
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I agree, at 130w per channel, it is unlikely you will need a seperate amp. How loud do you listen and how big is your room?


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 Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
Luc, my opinion is that you should first try just the 1018 with the M80's to see if there is anything you don't like.

Then, if you decide you REALLY want to try using an external amp, I would not mess with older integrated amps or older AVR's. There is too much to go wrong over time with all the switches. And it is questionable to me that you would notice improvement over the amp section in your 1018.

For that much money, I would try to find either a decent used, dedicated power amp or a Refurb Onkyo M-282 at clubonkyo for $159US.



from my pio's manual :

 Quote:
You can use speakers
with a nominal impedance between 6 Ω and 16 Ω (please see Switching the speaker impedance on page 74 if you plan
to use speakers with an impedance of less than 8 Ω).


There is a switch to select one or the other but nothing for 4ohm? will it still work well?

I'm really not experienced with this (or anything else! :-)

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 Originally Posted By: sirquack
I agree, at 130w per channel, it is unlikely you will need a seperate amp. How loud do you listen and how big is your room?


I'm usually not going louder than -15db with my current setup (2xm22ti+2xqs8+vp100+12" psb sub)

room is around 14x15

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I would try it first to see if you have issues, they you can look into getting additional power. I would leave the switch in the 8ohm position so you don't limit current to the speakers. The 80's are more efficient, so it should work. Worse thing that could happen is that you may have to get some amps later..


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Separate amp for fronts
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Can you guys explain why people add a separate amp for the fronts with say a 2809, 3808 or other similar quality of amps? Is it just for more power in the stereo music listening mode? When using in HT mode, it seem the fronts are not asked to do much, compared to the center, so would have much more headroom than would normally be needed in HT mode. What am I missing here?


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davekro #251936 03/16/09 06:17 PM
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I think my fronts get far more of a workout than my center channel during most movies... unless it is one of those boring movies with nothing but dialogue and no action!

That being said... I use the 3808 to drive all of my speakers. I would like to add the axiom 2 channel amp for the fronts for stereo use. Too pricey for me though.


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terzaghi #251942 03/16/09 07:14 PM
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Dave, I think for the most part it is for more clean, undistorted sound at higher listening levels. Most people have smaller rooms and probably don't make use of that extra "headroom". In my case I do have a much larger room and do have monoblocks for my m80's. However, my Denon 2805 alone does an admirable job.

Whenever I get a new receiver with Audyssey or Trinnov, I may sell my amps. I need cash$$$ \:\)


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