Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners M80 and VP150 Testing over at Sking Ninja Forum

BTW - For the people who did have Emotvia amps trip... Were you using a sub and setting the pre-amp XO above 20 Hz?

I would like to know this as well... My xpa5 has never tripped even in direct stereo mode with the m80's. I don't understand why the xpa5 can handle the load when the more powerful xpa2 can't.

I never heard of a skiing ninja before I read this post. What kind of nerd is a skiing ninja anyway????

I have nothing much to add here... Just hoping I can be quoted out of context on the ninja's website.

Oh, and BTW.... Don't ever believe a review done by the manufacturer or a competitor. Both have reasons to spin the 'facts'.

Skiing Ninja's frequency response graphs for the M80, even the on-axis plots, seem to be quite different from others I have seen.

I couldnt care less what the measurements were or who's a hack..

I just thought it was amusing that someone would want to do something like fabricate a new baffle or cover over tweeter holes or make tweeter pods...

... Maybe its just me but if my speakers needed that much modification to be good i would...... oh, i dont know... But better ones?

Well, I finally got around to reading the linked page. He's not just attacking Axiom, but us weepy board members who are too emotional to have valid counterarguments. Nice. I don't really know what he thinks he's accomplishing.

Steve, with my MPS-1 I tried various modes, direct, stereo (80hz crossover), and movies (all speakers small/80hz crossover), and still had shut downs. The shutdowns occurred normally during explosions in movies, or when the music was turned up a bit, but not to insane levels.

>>The only thing of interest to me here is his claim that the M80's do drop to 2.4 ohms from 10-20hz.

Doesn't the impedence drop to zero (ie just the DC resistance of the voice coils) if you take the frequency low enough ?

Impedance = Resistance + Reactance. The reactance would be zero, but the resistance would still be there.

Well, that to me blows all of their propaganda out of the water. If you crossed over at 80Hz, the M80 did not even see those supposed low impedance's between 10-20 Hz.

Listen, in the end people should buy what they are happy with. It's just fascinating to me that the Emotiva amps seem to be the only "high end" amps that have trouble with this speaker, yet my lowly 120W receiver never has a problem with it. I mean, when Micah came over we listened to the "Finding Nemo" fishbowl scene at 105db, and we listened to about 5 minutes straight of it. This was after we had already listened to music at this level for almost an hour. The Denon never had a problem. I just think something smells very fishy here.