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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
Hansang #253737 03/26/09 01:02 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Hansang
 Originally Posted By: grunt

[snippage] it still amazes me how small the F16 is.


I recall when we had a FAC with us on a training mission. After I called in CAS, the FAC asked me if my men would like a small fly-by over the hill we were on. I said, sure, why not, the mission's over and the trainer called admin time.

(After missing the hill the first time, got vectored to the wrong hill) the two F16s flew *RIGHT* over our heads. I could see the eye color of the pilot, it was that close. What the FAC didn't tell us was how loud the stupid engines were! Oh man, our ears were ringing after that fly by! And we were used to grenades and .50 cal MGs going off! It absolutely amazed me that a) they could drop those 500lb's right on target - danger close no less and b) how small they were and c) how loud they were.

On another trip down memory lane, I remember being on top a large hill in Ft. Carson. It was early morning and I was on rattle snake patrol for the rest of the company (walking around the area looking for rattle snakes). Then down the valley, I saw some fast movers coming in. It turned out to be two A6's on a traing mission. They were flying NOE and I was able to look *down* at them as they flew in between the valleys. With the morning sun coming up, morning haze in the valley, it was a SPECTACULAR view. That's one sight I'll cherish for a long time!

(just realized I used too many acronyms. FAC == forward air controller. He's the AF weenie that follows us Infantrymen to call in air support. CAS = Close air support. Danger Close = friendlies within X meters of the target. It varies with munition and type of air/arty support. NOE == nap of earth, where pilots fly close to the earth to avoid radar detection. Admin time = no longer tactical, you can smoke and joke)


Hey watch the "AF weenie" talk. I spent 24 years in the AF, much of my time with AF Spec Ops providing you "infantrymen" with AC-130 CAS.

Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
Ghostmech #253809 03/26/09 04:44 PM
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Jay - thanks for the review and thoroughly confusing me and my formerly rock-solid opinion on the value of external amplifiers at lower volumes.

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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
myrison #253814 03/26/09 05:01 PM
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Jason,
I second your thoughts. Just when you start to feel pretty good about your 'beliefs' (therefore buying/ reality based wish list) with regard to a level of AVR to fit your budget and perceived 'need level', Jay comes along throws into question that 'need level'!

Just when you thought it was safe to feel good with your choices.... along comes Jay! Jay, we love you man, but you're killing us!

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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
davekro #253818 03/26/09 05:25 PM
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Jay is single handedly trying to jumpstart the economy by getting everyone to buy more audio equipment, lol.


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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
Adrian #253838 03/26/09 07:45 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Hansang

just realized I used too many acronyms.

I’ve now been in all 4 major branches of the U.S. armed forces and no one can beat the AF for acronyms. It’s been 6 years and I still ain’t even close to figuring them out. Plus they are contextual so one acronym can have multiple meanings. The Army and Marine Corps had the fewest and at least in the Navy something like COMSUBLANT you can figure out. Hell of a time keeping port and starboard straight though.

 Originally Posted By: Hansang

FAC == forward air controller. He's the AF weenie that follows us Infantrymen to call in air support.


Thankfully I only experienced one of those guys since the Marine Corps had it’s own Air Force. Our guys were called ALOs (Air Liaison Officers), Marine Corps pilots assigned to a battalion to coordinate CAS. The Corps learned in WW2 that pilots can better describe a target to another pilot since he knows what it’s going to look like from the air.

As for the only FAC I briefly saw I was not impressed. It was at Teem Spirit 82 or 84 (old age). My platoon went in on UH-1s to secure an LZ. When the second chalk landed with the command element I watched as the FAC jumped out of the CH-46, looked left and right to see if anyone was watching and then started hopping up and down on one leg like he twisted the other ankle. He reached up and had the crew chief pull him back onboard and sayonara our CAS.

Yeah those AF weenies sure are…hey wait a minute I’m and AF weenie now.

 Originally Posted By: Ghostmech

Hey watch the "AF weenie" talk. I spent 24 years in the AF, much of my time with AF Spec Ops providing you "infantrymen" with AC-130 CAS.


Always would have like to see one of those in action. One of my First Sergeants in the Marine Corps said that Puff (Vietnam era) was only CAS from the AF he trusted would hit the badguys and not him.

I just noticed one advantage to typing rather than talking about this stuff. Every other word isn’t and F-bomb.

 Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson

Man, can we go OT, huh? I just checked the thread topic before posting this...


Maybe we could adopt it into a forum motto. “Axiom Forums: Where no good thread goes un-hijacked”

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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
grunt #253840 03/26/09 07:56 PM
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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
Ghostmech #253857 03/26/09 09:56 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Ghostmech

Hey watch the "AF weenie" talk. I spent 24 years in the AF, much of my time with AF Spec Ops providing you "infantrymen" with AC-130 CAS.

That sounds like a fun day at the office. \:\)



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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
Zimm #253875 03/26/09 11:18 PM
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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
grunt #253879 03/27/09 12:07 AM
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