Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners M22 questions Axiom or not? Help!!!

I would not recommend introducing EQ settings, as it will alter the good sound from your Axioms, tone controls included. just my 2 cents.

Also, you don't hook your speakers to the sub. The speakers hook to the receiver speaker terminals using speaker wire. The sub is connected to the receiver's Sub "pre-out" jack using Coax cable with RCA connector ends. I would make sure your receiver has this jack, before you purchase a sub, some don't, but most do.

Once, I get better speakers than I will be able to resist the equalization.

Yes, I have a RCA mono connector for the sub.
I just noticed that some of the subs do have connectors for
speakers so I was just wandering if that was a better option
from crossover control point of view?

Thanks

No, connecting the speakers to the sub is rarely the better option. The sub actually doesn't have an internal "crossover", although it's frequently called that. It's only a variable low-pass filter on the sub which rolls the sub off above the selected frequency. It has no effect on the connected speakers, which are just powered straight through from the receiver(a very few subs have a separate high-pass filter on the speaker outputs, typically fixed at about 100Hz).

Connect the speakers directly to the receiver in nearly all cases.

Well, you guys talked me into it!

I just ordered M22 - vinyl white maple with black grill.
However, I don't have the patience and want my speakers ASAP
so didn't go throw the outlet.

Thanks for help!!!
I will let you know what my impressions once it gets here.

Congratulations on the purchase. I hope you find them to your liking!

That wait is a killer! Congrats on the purchase.

Hi Axman

I recently picked up a pair of egg shell white M22Tis (version 1) which I use in my garage system. First of all, I now like the way my egg shell white M22s look. I'll snap a picture tomorrow evening and try to post it. I drive these M22s with a silver face, top of the line, drop dead gorgeous, 1980ish Kenwood KA9100, 2 channel integrated amplifier. I use an Ah! Njoe Tjoeb (heavily massaged Marantz CD Player with tube output section, Burr Brown DACs, Op amp, (I may have pulled the BBs to make room for the Op Amp).

How did it sound? Thin. Unpleasant. Never listened to them, until this past week. I dragged the Velodyne 10" subwoofer I had in my closet to the garage, ran the output from the amp to the subwoofer used the sub's cross over, set it at 100Hz, and what a difference a sub makes.

A little fooling with the sub volume and the M22 kit sounds just great. Not good. Great.

So, the moral of the story is, if you have no sub, go with a pair of Axiom M3Tis. If you have a sub, you can't go wrong with either.

As to the big box generic speaker offerings from the makers of Home Theater in boxes, there is no comparison. The sound quality from a pair of M22s + subwoofer, or M3s is so much better than those wee pissy speakers that it's a matter of night and day.

Grab some Axes Axman and enjoy the music.

Arthur:
Welcome to the forums! I have never heard the M22s but have read lots of reports on them and think you'll be thrilled. If you're not planning on cranking the whole system to ear-bleeding levels and the system is really for music, I would recommend the EP350 sub instead of the 500. It'll save you a few bucks, has an excellent reputation for being articulate, and though it won't go as low as the 500, it'll go plenty low enough for music!

For less than $500, you're going to be looking at the EP125 or maybe the EP175 if you stretch your budget a bit. Axiom subs are very good, but they are (IMHO!) a little bit more expensive than some of the competition's lower-end subs. If neither of those float your boat...

SVS :

25-31 Pci's on sale for $499: http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-cyl-pcpow3.cfm

Or a PB10-NSD for $399: http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-10nsd.cfm

And HSU's site: http://www.hsuresearch.com/subwoofers.html

The VTF's are often said to offer amazing value in the world of subwoofers. I have thought that if I were to ever set up my M22's in a more critical 2-channel listening system, that I'd probably pick up an STF-1 or -2 to handle the lowest bass that they can't. For ~$350, I know of no less expensive sub that get's as much praise.

However!! I don't know how either company handles shipping to Canada. I think SVS actually does NOT ship to Canada, but uses a distributor.

There, Axiom probably has a very distinct advantage in that they are, for obvious reasons, very Canadian-friendly.

Best of luck!!

SVS is distributed by Sonicboomaudio in Canada. Another good option in this price range would be the Paradigm DSP3100/3200's if you choose to go outside the Axiom lineup.