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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
myrison #254222 03/29/09 04:12 PM
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That's the whole problem, isn't it? If I had been willing to spend an extra 4k on the system I probably would have bought more expensive speakers to begin with.

On the other hand, logic never really stopped me before, so why should it now?


M80s/VP160/QS8s/EP350; M22s; M3s.
Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
doormat #254249 03/29/09 09:42 PM
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What is this thing called logic? I think logically we wouldn' be in this hobby in the first place!


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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
jakewash #254463 03/30/09 05:29 PM
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Never heard of it.


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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
doormat #254486 03/30/09 07:17 PM
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 Originally Posted By: doormat
That's the whole problem, isn't it? If I had been willing to spend an extra 4k on the system I probably would have bought more expensive speakers to begin with.

On the other hand, logic never really stopped me before, so why should it now?



You keep using that word...I do not think it means what you think it does!


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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
Hansang #254492 03/30/09 08:05 PM
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Hansang is correct.

Logic(7).
Logic (noun) is simply the name of speaker balancing software. It has nothing to do with the average OCD HT enthusiast! ;\)

Last edited by davekro; 03/30/09 08:06 PM.

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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
jakewash #254506 03/30/09 09:14 PM
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
What is this thing called logic? I think logically we wouldn' be in this hobby in the first place!


OK. It's been 8 days. Does the 1400 make your speakers sound better than the 3808?

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It did till I blew up my 3808. The multi-channel listening was never really tested though. I tried the A1400 running the front 3 and I felt it was a marked improvement. That was as far as I got before I messed up. I am hoping to get my 3808 back before Mel wants the A1400 back, so I can finish listening.


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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
jakewash #254520 03/30/09 09:46 PM
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Sorry to read that.....

I must have gotten lost in the airshow hijack.

I alway thought that my 3250 3-channel made my M80s sound better. Folks knocked me for that.

I do hope you get to do some more listening.

Doug

Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
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Thanks, my post of the wreckage is near the end of the hi-jacking.

Care to elaborate on the differences you hear(d)?

I think it comes down to quality/power/slew rates/transient responses etc. of the amp. As most of the common names we post about are near the same build quality, I feel the differences are negligible, at least amongst the ones I have heard with my system - Denon, H/K and Yamaha. I am wondering about Onkyo now as PeterC's review was not too favorable.


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Denon 3808
Samsung 85" Q70
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Jay, have you gotten a repair time yet?
Done any testing with mojo or icehawk?
Mel N.

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