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Anyone else find the redneck quote on the main page annoying? It makes the guy sound like an idiot. I understand they want it to sound like a normal buyer and not a reviewer, but the english is so poor:

"Most companies don't have a clue what value really means but ya'll have it nailed!! "

I mean, does this guy actually write Ya'all because he thinks it is part of the english language?

I reckon you got a point there, Snippy. Y'all should take note, however, that "english" is capitalized in this neck of the woods - don't want folks thinkin' you're ignorant!

"Ya'll" is an accepted colloqiualism coming from the South (of the US, that is).

Fo' shizzle, ya'll shouldn't be dissin' other folks's speech patterns, yo.

I thought y'all was Texan... Thank y'all anyway.

the buying group i belong to puts out fliers. one of the southern guys was pi**ed when one of the printing folks changed his grammar, so yes that's the way they talk, and it's accepted. doesn't offend me i'm a yank from new england.
dan

Y'all just need to chill out. Yes, I use y'all in daily conversation, in writing emails, etc.

I'm from Southern California and live in Northern California. So there. Nyah! :-P

Right next to I-75 just south of Cincinnati:

No doubt, eh! Whadja say? Howzat?

Me fail English? That's unpossible!

Yeah really. Who cares. At least he got his review featured!!!!!!!!!

Dont need to be soo uptight about everything in the world. cut yourself loose from the standards of modern society and live life the enjoyable way!

Beins' from the Nuawlens' area, all us "coon asses" thought Ya'll was normal!

Oooch.
Having just returned from Austin i can attest to that crazy "ack sent".

Awwww... chess! You didn't swing by Dallas???

Hey cuzan', why you dont' come up to DFW to visit wit' us!

(I actually have relatives that speak like this)

I find the term "redneck" annoying. I have no problems when the "you know you're a redneck when" jokes are told, because it is towards no one in particular. However, when someone uses the term while describing a particular person, that is along the same lines as the other ethnic slang terms. (you know the ones, every nationality, race, religion, and sexual orientation has them).

Lighten up and accept people the way they are.

Redneck isn't an ethnic slang word, sorry.

Would you prefer cracker?

And I agree: calling someon a redneck is not an ethnic slur. Besides, if you don't have a car on blocks on your front lawn, or beer cans strewn across your back lawn, or a confederate flag waving from your pickup truck (the one that actually works), then the label doesn't fit you.

I was just thinking that the person does not sound very smart and I think it makes Axiom look bad, just my opinion. I thought it was funny at first (in a bad way) and now I really wish they would change it to someone else.

You're not about to give back your Axiom speakers in protest, are you? 'Cuz I'll take 'em!

I find "redneck" to be mildly offensive when used in such an insulting way. It implies a poor white person who must work outside to earn a living. More offensive is the term "white boy", which is currently very popular among some other ethnic groups around here.

The 'Florence Y'All' sign on the water tower started out reading 'Florance Mall'. Someone sued the local government for advertising a private business. The sign was changed to 'Florence Y'All'. The mall and water tower is in Florence Kentucky.

Aha...! Some nice, witty local government they have in Florence, KY!

Swing by Dallas?
No.
6th Street kept me busy for way too long.
The whole tattoo parlor on every corner kind of thing was really kooky.

I heard too much slang to stay in Texas for too long.
That would drive me batty.

Did i miss something here?
Who called who a redneck?
I thought we were talking about local accents and slang.

Its not so much the slang that bothers me but its' the twang that makes me nuts

For me it's the people who can't spell it's right.

Yeah well, you might as well get over it because there are a lot of us who can't spell ITS' correctly.

The correct spelling is y'all, not ya'll or ya'all, by the way.

You sure its not Yawll.

Aw hell...

Yay! the quote has finally been changed!

And cool new Gift certificates!

I can only believe that you made this statement, to get a rise out of everyone ??
Who really sounds like the 'idiot' here ??
"The english is so poor" ?? Give me a break..
I mean, do you think by attacking someone like this it makes you a part of the human race ? (Hey, I'm only applying the same logic you used in your last sentence)
Please tell me this was a failed attempt at humor..
Seriously, I feel you owe an apology to this forum, as well as Ian and Amie..

Y'all need to chill Mikey! Lookin' at the kid's picture I'd say he's only 'bout 17.

lol

LOL

It's times like these when we all need to break out our Eric Clapton Unplugged CDs...

"Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself."

NOOOOOOO ... The Culture CLub is more like it.

I have Clapton's Unplugged Live album.


Layla is such a great song...

"See if you can spot this one..."

Duuuuuude, totally..
Now, where'd I put ol' Keb Mo ?? Dang little cd's are so easy to, ahhhhhh, here it is...
Later mi amigo..

LOL @ Y'ALL

Yes I was just trying to start a debate because I was bored, but I still think the quote sounded dumb. I just thought it made the main page look kind of cheesy.

And I am 22, not 17. Please do not take cheap shots. I was not taking one against someone here at this forum, I was just trying to see if anyone agreed with me. To me, someone saying Ya'all in written text all the time is like someone from the Bay area typing "hella" or someone from Orange County typing "dude" or "like" all the time. I am from O.C. and I say dude way more than I should, but I do not type it in emails and posts. I think it would make me sound dumber than I already do.

I agree.

Well, all of 22 ? Alright then..
Cheap shots.. If that was not what you yourself took, what do you call it ? The idea that many people actually talk different than you, and that they may actually write and/or type the same way they talk, is a concept you are either unable to comprehend, and/or are not comfortable with..
Interesting..
Look, kid, (and I mean that in an endearing way), one of the basic (If not THE basic) facts of life: For every action, there is and equal and opposite reaction..
This, my friend, is undeniable..
So, it may not be as much fun, but if you can spend a few nano seconds thinking about what you are about to do or say, you may find a better way to do or say it ? If at all...
PS: Nooooobody that lives here really calls it the "OC".. (Oops.. Was that a cheap shot ?)...

Mikey,

I agree with the sentiment you are trying to relay to snippy. Even though he says he was just trying to start a debate, he does come across as a little bigoted.

Because I am an equal opportunity finger pointer, I feel the need to say that you aren't exactly coming off squeaky clean in this. Sure, you're older and probably a bit wiser, but nobody takes well to a derogatory and lecture-like tone.

Nanoseconds...

I call it the O.C now because I no longer live there, but I grew up there for 18 years. And I love the fact that that stupid show is actually filmed in Malibu.

Yes, I may come off like a bigot, but some things just get to me, and "hella" and "Ya'all" are some words that get to me. I also cannot stand people who say "take 101 to 5". I have to say "take THE 101 to THE 5". Wierd, I know, but when you live in Central California and are from Southern California, there is a stupid debate between the different speaking styles of Southern and Northern California. There is even a popular clothing company called "NorCal" that stemmed from it. Stupid, I know, but something I have to deal with on a daily basis at College. Sorry to bring it here to Ya'all! (I couldn't resist).

Them's just words. At some point everyone -- including me -- has to realize that words are meant for communicating. As long as you understand what the other person is trying to say, the words have served their purpose. I mean, we're not writing dissertations here, are we?

Yeah, I know, it's the 'Becker' in me.. And yes, it comes with age.. haha.. Way too much age as I pause to reflect..

Hey, it's good to hear you are not taking this all the wrong way, and can see the humor in it.. (here and there).. There's hope for ya yet kid.. !! haha..
Never used the term bigot, eh..
Hope it all sounded more like someone's ol' man ? haha.. Capn' Bligh got nothin' on me an MY ship ! Aaaaarrrrrrr.. At least, that's what my 3 kids are always saying ?? hahahaha..
I guess it's a good thing you're not going go college in Main.. But then, ya can't get there from here.. hahahaha

You guys are driving me crazy

American English is a hopelessly convoluted and deficient language. Most other civilized countries have different words for the second-person singular and the second-person plural, but not us. No no no. That's why I had been CRUSADING for formal adoption of "y'all" as the plural of "you".

Until, that is, it was pointed out to me by an esteemed colleague from the South that "y'all" IS singular and the appropriate version of the second-person plural is really "all y'all".

While I'd have to agree with Peter that, especially in the context of an internet forum, language is just a means for us to communicate with one another, I would also like to submit that there is elegance in precision and great writing is of lasting value. Repetition of poor or imprecise writing degrades our culture incrementally.

I am reminded of a couple of things - first, in an earlier life, I was a Historian. The grace, truth and deliberation with which even common people used to write letters remains an elegant testament to their life experiences. Particularly compelling examples come from soldier letters during the War between the States.

Likewise, the phrase "man of letters" has long been used to convey a sense of scholarly proficiency.

No, we're not writing for books or academia here. And I am tremendously grateful for the kindness, thoughtfulness and civility under which this forum operates; it is why I continue to reside here. AND, to others, how we express ourselves is often "who" we are.

Man, those books on tape sound great on my Axioms.

tomtuttle,

I understand, and often share your sentiments. It grieves me greatly to see that the art of writing is all but completely lost with current generations, especially with my own and those younger than it.

Just a couple days ago, I was reading Lincoln's Gettysburg Address -- Nov. 19th was the speech's 140th anniversary -- and I'm pretty certain we will not see so few words with so much power, emotion, and meaning in them in the foreseeable future -- especially from any US leaders. (You have to admit that's a fact whether or not you like Bush.)

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You guys are driving me crazy

American English is a hopelessly convoluted and deficient language. Most other civilized countries have different words for the second-person singular and the second-person plural, but not us. No no no. That's why I had been CRUSADING for formal adoption of "y'all" as the plural of "you".

Until, that is, it was pointed out to me by an esteemed colleague from the South that "y'all" IS singular and the appropriate version of the second-person plural is really "all y'all".

While I'd have to agree with Peter that, especially in the context of an internet forum, language is just a means for us to communicate with one another, I would also like to submit that there is elegance in precision and great writing is of lasting value. Repetition of poor or imprecise writing degrades our culture incrementally.

I am reminded of a couple of things - first, in an earlier life, I was a Historian. The grace, truth and deliberation with which even common people used to write letters remains an elegant testament to their life experiences. Particularly compelling examples come from soldier letters during the War between the States.

Likewise, the phrase "man of letters" has long been used to convey a sense of scholarly proficiency.

No, we're not writing for books or academia here. And I am tremendously grateful for the kindness, thoughtfulness and civility under which this forum operates; it is why I continue to reside here. AND, to others, how we express ourselves is often "who" we are.

Man, those books on tape sound great on my Axioms.

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Now all y'all gots to agree, dat was some seriously eloquent writin'. Bravo!

Nah. Just noodling on the keyboard, me. Thanks, tho, Craig. Writing can be a means of artistic expression for those, like me, who lack creative and technical skill in other media. Those of you who possess those skills have the capacity to elevate all of us.

Peter, thanks for the link. It's hard to beat the classics. Especially that one for being elegant and succinct. I think Twain said "I'd have written less if I had more time."

Here's another one I like ... Col. Travis' letter from the Alamo

I spoken gooder english than 6 yrs past. Done even ask how better my tagalog is.

i learnt all dis from TV.

I AM CANADIAN!!!! EH!!!

Man, for the most part the forum was really dead this week.. But it's sure going out with a BANG ! Gotta luv it..
TT, your so write, er, I mean, right.. I love old letters, the penmanship is just incredible.. Works of art..

Twain also said,"The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them."

what the heck is a head of beeve?

In those days they didn't have cows.

well guess what. ya got yerself a new review. ya happy now! no more redneck slurr's on axioms site to annoy you.