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Re: QS8 V2 or M2 V2
davekro #255194 04/03/09 02:10 AM
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Dave(and G), since contrary to the first impression a 7.1 setup is the topic here, the side surround speakers are best placed directly to the side of the listening position. If this was a 5.1 setup without back surround speakers, it would be preferable to have the side surround speakers slightly(say 2-3')farther back than directly to the side so that they could create a little more "back" effect on their own by forming a "phantom" back center speaker when playing sound about equal in the left and right surrounds.


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Re: QS8 V2 or M2 V2
JohnK #255199 04/03/09 02:36 AM
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I should have given more info my room is 24x12x9. I built a box for one couch so I have two rows. I'm going to place the QS8 between the two rowes, that will put the QS8 about 2 foot behind the first row. I was worried that putting the QS8 that close to the celing would affect the sound, but it sounds like it will be just fine. Thanks for all the tips everyone


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Re: QS8 V2 or M2 V2
Gieseman #255200 04/03/09 02:42 AM
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How far off the ground will they be, and what mount are you going to use? The come with a flush mount bracket for a wall, but Axiom also makes a ceiling bracket that tilts/swivels, although it is a bit expensive.

Mine are 7ft off the ground and do very well, I am using some DIY brackets I found at Menards. I'm considering getting the Omnimount 20.0 black ceiling mounts which also swivel and are half the price of the Axioms.


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Re: QS8 V2 or M2 V2
SirQuack #255201 04/03/09 02:49 AM
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I was going to try flush mount, and they will be about 8 1/2 foot off the ground. Maybe later I will get some celing brakets and try it out, my wife loves it when spend hours tweaking the speakers lol


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Gieseman #255202 04/03/09 02:53 AM
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How far away will they be from the seating positions, if they are real close, 8.5ft might be a little high, that is why I mentioned the ability to angle down slightly with the right bracket. Mine are about 8-9 ft to the left/right of the primary seat in the front row, works pretty good.


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Re: QS8 V2 or M2 V2
SirQuack #255206 04/03/09 03:13 AM
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about 7 feet from the seating, I could see how the angle could help spread the sound around. Oh and they will be about 6 feet to the back wall. Plus there is a window below where one of the QS8 will sit, that is why I put them so far up and where they sit is what I think is good for the two listening spots. My adp-190 did well there and I placed them all over until putting them there.

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Re: QS8 V2 or M2 V2
Gieseman #255252 04/03/09 02:03 PM
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Gieseman.
Mounting the side Q's where you describe (mid way between 1st and 2nd row) sounds good. They are known for being pretty flexible in mounting positions. For mounting above your windows, you could consider mounting to the wall with wall mount FMB's, if you desire to tilt them (which is a very good idea in you application). That might also allow the bottom of the speaker to actually sit a little below the window edge or molding (should you desire and works in your application). Mainly though the FMB wall mounts will allow the top of your Q's to be a couple inches further away from the ceiling, which I think is preferable. Another option that gives a bit more ceiling clearance than ceiling FMB's, if you wanted to save some bucks , are Omnimount 20's which are a good option. They are ceiling mounts. Besides being less expensive, they give an inch or two more ceiling clearance than the FMB 'ceiling mount' bracket, which would probably locate them pretty close to where the 'wall mount' FMB would place the Q's in your application anyway. Also, if moving speakers inward on the ceiling a few inches is a plus in dealing with your windows, that is an option with the Omnimount 20 ceiling bracket. If you have a Radio shack near you, you can save on shipping, as you can order at RS on line and ask them to be shipped free to the RS store of your choice.

NOTE: the QS8 requires a 1/4-20 thread. The Omni 20 is 3/8", so you'd need a 1/4" to 3/8" adapter. Not sure where to get that, but Randy had a picture on another thread a while back. The Omnimount 10 (10lb rated capacity, but Omni says they are conservatively rated) is 1/4" rod and thread, which matches the Q's insert, BUT it is about 2" shorter! That makes it about the same dist. from the ceiling as the FMB ceiling brkt, but lots cheaper. Lots of options you'd need to decide on, but at least the info saves all the research on the nitty gritty details of the options.


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Re: QS8 V2 or M2 V2
davekro #255278 04/03/09 04:39 PM
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Thanks, for all of the good ideas. I have just one window and I changed the drapes last night, and went inside the window frame. I will try that, but the celing mount is probley the way to go. Plus if it don't work out they can go in the bedroom, where I have a pair of M22's and the vp-100 and stf-1, the other pair of adp-190's are on the back wall of the bedroom system. I'm sure I will be happy with the QS8, I think Axiom builds a wonderful speaker. I'm sure one day I will have to move the 11's out and put in a pair of M80's in the theater room. Slowly I will replace my paradigms with the Axioms, just not the dsp-3200.


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