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Re: Bracket for QS8's??
jakewash #257150 04/17/09 05:15 AM
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
I am thinking with the prevalent option for new homes being a 9' or taller ceiling, a much longer ceiling mount would sell well.


[cross posted from my 'Speakers have arrived! Question' thread.]

Well, I finally got around (almost) finishing my DIY QS8 brackets. Here are my home made brackets. All it took was some imagination, a sawsall, a big hammer and some paint. (One could add something to cover the threads and casting markings before painting, for a pro finish)

First I bought a galvanized flange with a 1/2" pipe thread, but decided to use a bigger one with 1" pipe thread which I adapted down to 1/2" pipe. I wanted a little bigger footprint on the ceiling, but any size would work. I'll shoot from the hip rate these brackets at 100 lbs. (or whatever two 5/16" x 2 1/2" lag bolts into a 2x4 rafter will hold. That would be the weak link, if you can call it that.) \:\)

I bought a 2' piece of 1/2" galv. pipe, which was threaded on both ends intending to cut it in the middle leaving two pieces threaded on one end. I had no idea how long I wanted each pipe section. When I figured it out today, each was cut to 6" long.

I tried to squish flat in my vise, No go. Out came the small hand held sledge and I flattened the pipe about 3/4 of the way up towards the threaded end. I left enough space in flattened pipe so the speaker wire could pass through the flat end of the brkt, up through the pipe, them through the ceiling (hole angled off sharply to mostly miss the 2x4 rafter). I still need to drill 1/4" holes for the QS8s an inch or so from the end of the flat part. I wrapped the round end with a towel and put it in a vise. Then used a larger pipe to bend the flat portion to 27º. Lastly, I evened out the mating surface on the grinder so it would be perfectly flush to speaker.

Obviously the pipe could extend down at far as you like and bend or not bend the end. Tomorrow I will tighten the bushing to seat it further down in the base. Then I will give them a few coats of white paint. The pipe will thread in just before hand tight. That way I can easily reach up and rotate the speakers 180º towards the back half of the room when we are there and want to listen to 7 ch stereo or what ever. Between the ceiling and the flange, I will sandwich in a thin coaster to protect the ceiling texture.

First step- materials I had already primed the flanges.
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The primered QS8 brackets with 27º bend to tilt Qs down toward listening position.
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The costs (from memory) were about.
flange ≈ $6.50
2' 1/2" galv. pipe nipple ≈ $3.00
1" to 1/2" galv bushing ≈ $3.50
So about $14 each not including paint which I had.

I'll be glad to get rid of the 8' towers! ;\)

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Re: Bracket for QS8's??
davekro #257152 04/17/09 05:25 AM
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You certainly don't mess around. \:\)

I'm sure you measured and all that, but 6" seems a little short to make the QS8 stand off from the ceiling enough.

Re: Bracket for QS8's??
pmbuko #257154 04/17/09 06:11 AM
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Peter,

I actually was actually doing my final measurements when the (M2 sized) bookshelves were on my stands on inc from the ceiling. This afternoon I was actually thinking I might go with direct firing for the backs since the Qs kept being set to 150Hz x-over by Audyssey/1909. I just went and checked the bracket on the Q's. If I put the 1/4" mtg hole 1" from the end (2" would have been a little better), the 27º tilt has the top of the 5 1/4" surround rubber 4 1/2" from ceiling, while the lower part of the surround would be 6 1/2". I don't know if I would have wanted them lower anyway. Good thought though. You did catch me designing to another speaker. ;o)


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davekro #257240 04/18/09 08:29 AM
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I finished the brackets. Now all I need to do is commit to how far to separate them and drill the holes in the ceiling! ;\)
12' apart is at ≈ 135º. 10' apart is ≈ 150º. So I am in Dolby's range. I just gotta decide.

Anyway Fab, IF you wanted to swivel mid ceiling back speakers, this is one way to do it.
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I put both wires into the positive binding post like Randy said to do. ;\)
(well it 'looks' that way anyway. ;o)
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Re: DIY swivel ceiling brackets
davekro #257241 04/18/09 08:40 AM
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You're missing a puzzle piece.

Nice brackets.

Re: DIY swivel ceiling brackets
CV #257243 04/18/09 08:48 AM
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Charles, ssshhhhh. don't tell my wife. She hates it when I drop pieces on the floor (for the dog to find )

thanks


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Re: DIY swivel ceiling brackets
davekro #257587 04/21/09 02:45 AM
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Thanks guys,, Nice DIY project.. I also have an idea simillaer to the looks of your set up with a no tool anlge adjustment and swivel.. Great ideas though..

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Re: DIY swivel ceiling brackets
fab5valentine #257676 04/21/09 08:22 PM
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Dave, I would suggest you put a regular washer, then a lock washer on the screw attaching the QS8s, for safety. Don't want to switch on the Eleven O'clock news....Man killed by falling quadpolar speaker, it is believed while listening to "Master and Commander" at 105db, a screw came lose on the bracket, causing the speaker to fall and beaned the unsuspecting victim on the head.


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Re: DIY swivel ceiling brackets
Adrian #257681 04/21/09 08:54 PM
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Bang bang Davo's brand new QS8 came down uppon his head...


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Re: DIY swivel ceiling brackets
fredk #257697 04/22/09 01:27 AM
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Not a bad thought Adrian, I will say that my hex head bolts, no washers, are just as snug as the day I mounted them. Still, not a bad idea..


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