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14 guage speaker wire 500feet for $37.50
#260900 05/20/09 04:46 PM
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I posted this in the deals section but just in case anyone is in the same situation as I am - setting up a new HT then this may be a good deal for you. FT4 cable that meets code requirements for in wall installation much cheaper even than monoprice.

http://www.thesource.ca/estore/Product.a...product=2788130

They also have cat5 and RG-6 cables at similar pricing. $5 shipping. I hope this doesn't constitute advertising but I figured lots of posts about monoprice in the forums and this is even better price. Apologies if I'm wrong to post this.


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Re: 14 guage speaker wire 500feet for $37.50
Stormin #260901 05/20/09 04:57 PM
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Is 14 guage wire acceptable for M80's? I was thinking I needed 12 guage. I hate to be cheap when it comes to this link in the chain. I mean I know I don't need 'Monster' wire or anything oxygen free, etc... but I will shell out a bit more for 12 guage wire if I need to. What are most M80 owners using?


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Micah #260904 05/20/09 05:28 PM
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14 gauge should be fine (says the guy using double 14 gauge for a total thickness of ~11 gauge).


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Ken.C #260906 05/20/09 05:29 PM
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Micah, it depends on the ohm rating and distance of run your using, in some cases 16AWG would work, however, I use 12 all over.


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Micah #260908 05/20/09 05:35 PM
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Hi Micah,

For short runs, up to 15 feet, 14-gauge is fine. But if you absolutely want to keep resistance to an insignificant level and for longer runs up to 60 or 70 feet, go with 12-gauge.

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Re: 14 guage speaker wire 500feet for $37.50
Stormin #260909 05/20/09 05:35 PM
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Wow. Kind of rare to find a deal that's even better than Monoprice! \:\)

I'm pretty sure that 'hey, look what I found!' threads are fine. At least, they come up all the time and no one has ever complained. Unless, of course, you're the owner of the business that's selling the product. ;\)

My M80's are bi-wired/amped with Canare 4S11 cable from Blue Jeans Cables. Each individually-wrapped wire in the cluster is is 14ga. No problems that I'm aware of on my 15' runs.



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Re: 14 guage speaker wire 500feet for $37.50
PeterChenoweth #260945 05/20/09 09:43 PM
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Buy Wire. ;\)


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Re: 14 guage speaker wire 500feet for $37.50
PeterChenoweth #260946 05/20/09 09:47 PM
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The M80's will only need around 10 - 12 feet of wire max. My QS8's will need around 30 feet of wire. And my VP150 will only need probably 6 foot at the most.

I love all of the 'should be good enough' comments. Nobody seems 100% sure about it. Makes me think getting the 12 guage would be the safe bet. Like I said, I'm not wanting to spend 4 grand on speakers, then worry about a measly $50 dollar difference in wire price. I'll shell out the extra for 12 guage for peace of mind any day of the week.

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Re: 14 guage speaker wire 500feet for $37.50
Micah #260963 05/21/09 12:16 AM
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I bought a 500 foot spool and certainly don't need all of it. If anyone's interested in splitting the spool just let me know. I think I've seen this somewhere else in the forums but here's an interesting calculator for wire size.

http://www.bcae1.com/images/swfs/speakerwireselectorassistant.swf


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Re: 14 guage speaker wire 500feet for $37.50
Micah #260967 05/21/09 01:43 AM
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Micah, this isn't just guesswork or personal preferences. Appropriate gauges can be calculated from the speaker impedance and length of the run. An excellent explanation by a veteran audio professional of speaker wire in general, including a table of suggested gauges, is found here . Even 16 gauge would be fine for the uses that you describe.


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