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Would Axioms be too bright for hardwood room?
#26178 11/22/03 09:05 PM
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I am building a dedicated HT room and it will have hardwood floors with heavy curtain and drapery on the walls. The room is 15x20 and 12' ceiling. I am planning to get the M80's, Qs8 and the Vp150 with and Earthquake Supernova MKIV-12 subwoofer. This system will be running on B&K Ref 30 and Earthquake Cineva Grande 5ch amp giving 300w at 8ohms and 600watts at 4ohms with all channels driven with less than 0.001% THD. My two choices have come down to the Axiom and the Onix Rocket line. Axioms are a few hundred cheaper and I don't have to pay shipping. I heard many times that the Axioms are "bright" Would they be ok with my setup and hardwood floor? THanks for all the input

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#26179 11/22/03 11:29 PM
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Nothing you wouldnt be able to take care of with an area rug if they were. with drapery on the walls, i doubt they would be.

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#26180 11/22/03 11:34 PM
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Axiom and Rocket are completely different sounds. Listen to them first if you can or order both and send one back. Rockets are supposed to be veeerrrryyyy laid back.

Can you please explain what "laid back means?"
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Re: Can you please explain what "laid back means?"
#26182 11/23/03 04:28 AM
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I use my M22's in a hardwood room with no carpeting at all. I dont find the sound to be too bright at all, and actually I have the trebel boosted alittle bit around 12-16k..

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#26183 11/23/03 03:27 PM
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I have an Axiom 5.0 system (sub is Adire) in a room that is so "hard" (wood floors, walls, windows all pretty much bare) as to be almost puritanically Scandinavian. I have not found the Axioms to be too "bright" (by which I understand annoying in the treble range) at all. On the contrary, the sound is quite neutral. That being said, the system is in the forward half of a "great" (family/kitchen) room, so the sound waves can "escape" the listening area more easily than would be the case in a smaller, more enclosed room.

Re: Can you please explain what "laid back means?"
#26184 11/24/03 03:41 PM
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Hi ssoleymani,

"Laid-back" means a prominent dip or "suck-out" in the midrange--likely about 3 dB or greater (verrry laid-back would be 6 dB or more)--which has the effect of making the speaker sound rather dull or distant, as if you had thrown a blanket over the speaker.

Our ears are acutely sensitive to midrange sounds, and in controlled listening tests, we can sometimes detect differences of 1 dB. Variations in midrange frequency response of 3 dB or more are easy to hear. Male and female vocals will sound more removed (behind the plane of the speakers), or farther back and less detailed when there's a 3-dB+ dip in the mids. "Laid-back" is a polite term for saying a speaker lacks clarity and presence or has poor linearity in its frequency response, especially in the critical midrange.
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Alan Lofft,
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Re: Can you please explain what "laid back means?"
#26185 11/24/03 04:16 PM
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I have the same sized room with 8' ceilings. I have m22's with qs4's. It's not bright but at higher listening levels it does get a little reflective and the imaging starts to diminish. Depending on how loud you like it, m60's may be enough speaker, m80's will be "plenty". You can't go wrong either way. Good luck

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#26186 11/24/03 07:47 PM
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The Rocket's I've heard did indeed sound like a damp blanket had been drapped over them. Bleck...




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