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Cheap laptop recommendations?
#261953 05/31/09 02:47 PM
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My laptop is too slow, too small and there’s nothing more I can do to it. It’s time to buy something different.

I use this thing for uploading firmware into my electronic devices, display calibration software and vehicle ECU / TCU / PCM programming. I use it for nothing else and for the most part, it just sits on a shelf.

As I get more time, I’ll most likely get into room analysis, so it’ll need a pretty good sound card.

It needs to have an RS 232 Serial port, CD burner and a decent sized screen.

I’ve found using Vista for burning firmware update disks can be problematic. I have had no issues with XP. Other than that, I’m not real sure which operating system I should go with….

I’d like to spend less than $500.

What do you think???

Re: Cheap laptop recommendations?
michael_d #261983 05/31/09 05:12 PM
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Joe_in_SC #262003 05/31/09 08:02 PM
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Mike,

Search on HP discounts. They usually have some kind of "build your own and get 30% off" think going. Also, you might check on their website and see if there is anything you like in their refurb section.

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Ray3 #262009 05/31/09 09:45 PM
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I'm a big fan of Deal News when looking for laptops and other generic electronics. They really find some great deals for laptops.


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This thread came around at the right time for me, too. I'll have to weigh my options.

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If you're not in a big rush, the best way to get a killer deal on a new notebook is to watch XPBargains.com for a few days/weeks/months. Every so often they'll have a coupon code that'll work for a few hours/days that will get you hundreds off of certain notebooks from HP or Dell. Dell in particular.

I've bought both of my Dell notebooks with codes from XPBargains. The first one was ~$1,800 configured but with coupons it was only about $1k, and the second was about $1,200 configured but was about $700 after coupons.

Your requirement of a serial port may be a bit of a problem. A lot of notebooks don't come with them anymore, especially the lower priced ones. Would your gear work with a USB-to-Serial dongle? That would significantly simplify your search, as everything obviously comes with USB ports.

Good luck!


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Re: Cheap laptop recommendations?
PeterChenoweth #262046 06/01/09 05:57 AM
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You an find a lot for <$700 if you shop correctly. Watch for coupons and possibly buy them on ebay for a few bucks at the most.

You can watch for dealzmodos on Gizmodo.com,

Try these too:
http://slickdeals.net/
http://www.techdeals.net/

Unfortunately, you will have a problem with RS232. Most laptops don't include them anymore. You'll need to buy an USB to RS232 converter. I suggest you buy the Kensington one, I've found it to be the most reliable and have the most drivers, including Macs. Should be less than $40.

Honestly, for your relatively 'meager' requirements, you may get away with a netbook. You can get a Dell Mini 10 for about $350. IIRC, the 10v supposedly has HD graphics and HDMI out. You can run Windows 7 on this type of machine and it'll scream. I have a Mini 9 with OSX and Win 7. Dell Mini 9 & Win 7 blows away my Thinkpad T42 running XP.

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oldskoolboarder #262077 06/01/09 02:34 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions guys.

I currently use a USB / RS232 adapter. It works, but can be 'buggy'. My engine monitor cables that plug into wireing harnesses is a real PITA to use with the adapter. That's why I was hoping to get a new laptop with RS232.

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michael_d #262083 06/01/09 03:03 PM
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Yes, those USB/RS232 adapters can be a PITA to work with. I remember having a Palm Pilot PDA that only had a serial port, and trying to get that to sync with a USB/RS232 adapter. Sometimes it'd work, other times it wouldn't. Just frustrating.

You may need to look at something like these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16839328005

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16839200014

That may, or may not, be more stable than the USB/RS232 adapter. Something to think about, anyway. If this idea works for you, then your options for a new notebook would be greatly increased, as most notebooks have PCIExpresscard slots these days. Do you have access to any sort of forum of folks that are doing what you're doing with the EM monitoring software? I'd think that they would be running into the same problem of not having notebooks with dedicated serial ports any more. I'd think that there ought to be some consensus on which adapters work and which don't. They might be able to point out notebook/adapter combinations that work for your intended application.

I like the netbook idea. But be sure you've got enough connectivity and hard drive space to do what you need to do. Your port options and expandability will be somewhat limited with a netbook. And if you're using XP, make sure you get a netbook with XP on it. Many come with Ubuntu (linux). Ubuntu is great, but it might not work for you if your OBDII software is XP/Windows based. A little $300 Asus eeePC 904H (9" screen, XP, 160GB HD) might be just perfect for you. It's just a matter of whether it has enough connectivity and processor power to do what you need to do. I bet it'd have enough raw power to work for you. I'd just be a little concerned about the connectivity aspect. With a netbook, you're going to have to use that RS232/USB dongle to make this work. And I don't know if that will be even more problematic when using a netbook.

A buddy has an eeePC that he just absolutely loves. He has a nearly brand new $2,500+ gaming notebook, but he seems to adore that silly little $300 netbook more. ;\) They are pretty sweet. The size and value is simply unbelievable.

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Re: Cheap laptop recommendations?
PeterChenoweth #262223 06/02/09 04:06 PM
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Thanks Peter. Those gadgets might just be my only other option. I can’t find a laptop with RS232. I did find a couple used ones on Ebay, but I’m not a computer guy, so I’d rather not take my chances on buying used.

The Netbook looks like cute, but not really what I need. I do not plan on using it for anything that would require on-line access, other than my home LAN.

The mini laptops are out as well.... I need a 15" screen or better for my display calibration software. It's tough to use if I can't see it.

Out of the laptops on this page, which one looks to be the best? I think I’ll just order one of them and be done with this.

http://dealnews.com/features/Weekend-Lap...ore/299732.html

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