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For movies, reference level is 85 db, this would be the level when calibrating the system. Music has no reference level, just what ever you would normally listen to could be considered reference level.
Jason
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Thanks Jake. Good to know.
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Excellent calculator example Murph! Power just isn't an issue in a small room. One thing the Crown calcualtor does not compensate for is room gain. Being in an enclosed space gets you another 6 db or so.
In my space, being at 8' from the speakers, I use between 2 and 6w including 12db headroom to get me to reference. My room is small - about 1800 cubes. Maybe I'm just deaf. 
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Music has no reference level It does in my room. I much prefer music at around 75-85db. 
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Re: Looking for a 5.1 system (speakers + receiver)
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My room is small - about 1800 cubes. Maybe I'm just deaf. You've been hanging around the monk for too long.  I didn't realize your room is so small. Mine livingroom is 1700 cubes, but the kitchen & diningroom adds almost as much. I never quite know how to classify my room because living-dining-kitchen area is semi-open.
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Re: Looking for a 5.1 system (speakers + receiver)
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Why, I remember when reference level was 70dB. Ya damn kids, get off my lawn!
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Re: Looking for a 5.1 system (speakers + receiver)
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Jason
M80 v2
VP160 v3
QS8 v2
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Denon 3808
Samsung 85" Q70
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Couple more things I would like to get some advice on. I'm not sure if I should start a new thread on this or not but here goes.
I'm sort of leaning towards getting an Emotiva Amp (specifically the XPA-5) and then using a less expensive receiver than the 3808 as a pre/pro. I kind of want something that will really drive the Axiom speakers, specifically the M80's. Does anyone know of some decent receivers (price < $1000CAD) that have similar features to the 3808 but are less power capable. I basically need my receiver to have at least 3 HDMI inputs, handle all the latest lossless codecs including MPCM over HDMI, preferably have different crossover settings for different channels and have basicac calibration akin to Audyssey or YPAO. I'm not too concerned with video processing, as long as it does upconverting/deinterlacing over non HDMI inputs as my Xbox 360 is still hooked up with component cables.
The other alternative I've been mulling over is like I mentioned previously, picking up the 3808 and a simple 2 channel amp for the M80's like the Emotiva UPA-2 or maybe a NAD C272 if I can find one for cheap.
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Re: Looking for a 5.1 system (speakers + receiver)
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Wait a month or two and keep an eye on the AVS for sale boards or other for sale places. There should be a bunch of used 3808's pretty soon as those owners move to the 4310. No need for external amplification either. I'd hold off on that.
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The XPA-5 is not universally loved with M80's. I'd stick with the Denon and perhaps a 2-channel amp.
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