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Re: Mac People: Photo management software?
PeterChenoweth #264029 06/17/09 05:24 PM
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Good lord, is it ever possible to just answer a Mac question without this incessant Apple proselytizing?

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Re: Mac People: Photo management software?
tomtuttle #264030 06/17/09 05:25 PM
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I'm wondering if it's possible to ask a question about Mac stuff without constant chants of "PCs are better, Macs suck!"

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PeterChenoweth #264032 06/17/09 05:47 PM
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I'm curious about the 140 degree F comment. If that is indeed correct that can't be good for any type of eletronic equipment and would consider it a design flaw.

What is the "normal" temperature a computer should run at? With no overclocking or anything else that will increase the internal temp.


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BlueJays1 #264033 06/17/09 06:00 PM
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140 is nice 'n' low. That's 60 deg C, which is well within the acceptable range of modern processors and their coworkers. It's when you're getting up to 70 or 80 that you should worry.

Now, I like my processors running around 50, but I also have the luxury of not running them in a 1/2 inch thick case.


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Re: Mac People: Photo management software?
Ken.C #264035 06/17/09 06:11 PM
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
I'm wondering if it's possible to ask a question about Mac stuff without constant chants of "PCs are better, Macs suck!"

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I was hoping that it wouldn't come to that. In most forums it would be a near certainty. We're a bit more civilized around here (I think).

I will remain firmly entrenched with one foot in the Microsoft morass; I write C# code, maintain VB6, and manage Microsoft SQL Servers for a living. So there's no escaping that. I have no real qualms about Microsoft either. I'm certainly not a M$ hater. I often defend their practices to my anti-M$ colleagues.

But in my home life, I'm looking for a change. The Mac is a refreshing change.

And besides, I don't really see what ammunition the Anti-Mac crowd has these days, since all modern Macs can run XP/Vista natively through Boot Camp. I mean, it's not a VM, it *is* Windows. And it works (from my meager experience) quite well. Case-in-point, my wife's secondary work machine is a c2007 Macbook Pro. Last one before the unibody Macs. It's a Core2Duo 2.2, 2GB ram, 5400rpm HD, w/ 256mb nVidia 8600GT discrete graphics. My Dell is a Core2Duo 2.0, 2GB Ram, 7200rpm HD, w/ 256mb 8600GT discrete graphics. Eerily similar.

In my pre-purchase tinkering, I put Bootcamp + XP on it and installed a couple of my current favorite games (Supreme Commander & Sins of a Solar Empire). Both games ran more smoothly on the MBP+Bootcamp+XP than they did on my Dell 1520. I'm sure the difference was probably a 6-month old Vista install on the 1520 vs. a clean XP on the MBP. But the point is, since the hardware is functionally the same, a Mac is going to be able to run Windows at least as well as a comparable PC of similar hardware specs.

And as for the 'Macs are overpriced' argument. I agree. They are. I've spent a lot of time building machines in the past few months. The MBP I bought was originally about $1,000 more expensive than an equivalent HP or Dell. That's not insignificant.

But as I was once told by an ex-Apple Store employee, the trick to buying a Mac is to buy a 'refurbished' one from Apple directly. So that's what I did. As soon as the 'new' MB's were announced at WWDC '09 last week, many 'old' MB's hit the refurb store. So my 'new' MBP is of the previous generation - previous as in superseded last week. So I don't get the non-removable (ick) 7-hour battery nor the built-in SD slot. Oh drat. But I do have an ExpressCard slot, which is more useful to me than the SD slot. Otherwise it's the same as the 'new' ones. But what I did get is a savings of *over* $1,000 on its price from two weeks ago. And as far as I can tell, it's never been used. No scuffs, no scratches, no key wear, no trackpad wear. It even smells like new electronics. Compared to the refurb Dell notebooks that I've personally witnessed that did look like someone had used them for a short time - crumbs or a hair in the keyboard, or a scuff mark on a corner or two.

The fact is, I had built several mid-high end Dell and HP machines of identical hardware specs as I was deciding what to do. The best prices I could come up with on a Dell/HP was $100-$200 cheaper than what I paid for the MBP. Yes, still slightly cheaper. But the all-aluminum chassis design and overall 'feel' of the MBP is easily worth that premium. And all that is before any discussion/argument over whether OSX is better than XP/Vista.

So again, I don't get the anti-Mac sentiment, other than fear of the unknown/unfamiliar.

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Re: Mac People: Photo management software?
PeterChenoweth #264036 06/17/09 06:14 PM
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I'm going to straddle the two sides and say that both Macs and PCs suck. Neither of them have the power to polish my creepy messages to Regina and make her fall in love with me.

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CV #264037 06/17/09 06:15 PM
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 Originally Posted By: CV
I'm going to straddle the two sides and say that both Macs and PCs suck. Neither of them have the power to polish my creepy messages to Regina and make her fall in love with me.


Who's Regina?


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Re: Mac People: Photo management software?
PeterChenoweth #264038 06/17/09 06:17 PM
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I also like VirtualBox for running VM versions of Windows and Linux. And it's free.

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oldskoolboarder #264039 06/17/09 06:21 PM
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 Originally Posted By: oldskoolboarder
I also like VirtualBox for running VM versions of Windows and Linux. And it's free.


I have used VirtualBox in Linux (to run XP). I was quite impressed. I didn't know they had an OSX version. I see that they do, in beta right now. Very cool.

I will definitely check that out. Thanks!


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Re: Mac People: Photo management software?
PeterChenoweth #264040 06/17/09 06:35 PM
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 Originally Posted By: PeterChenoweth
Who's Regina?


Why? Do you think someone's already made an iPhone app for it?

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