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Re: Upgrading to Axiom's - Need AVR Advice
grunt #265443 07/05/09 05:25 PM
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Good to know. I'll post the link here, and use the Deals thread to post other deals I find in the future.

Denon AVR-4310CI - $1,699 (MSRP $1,999)
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR4310CI-7-...46813968&sr=8-1

The deal is available on Amazon through OneCall. Both are "Authorized Denon E-Tailers", so Denon will honor their warranty if you purchase through them.


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Re: Upgrading to Axiom's - Need AVR Advice
zero002021 #265554 07/06/09 09:14 PM
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I would also think the Marantz offerings would drive M80s since they are also made by D&M Holdings, Denon's parent company. I am sure they share many internal components.


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Re: Upgrading to Axiom's - Need AVR Advice
zero002021 #265556 07/06/09 09:19 PM
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Welcome to the forums Zero. Thats going to be one heck of a system when you get it all set up. Don't forget to come back and post some pictures.


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zero002021 #265674 07/08/09 02:31 PM
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I have a Denon 3808CI. It sounds really good or so I thought. I replaced an Yamaha RX-V1000 with the Denon. I recently purchased a B-Stock Emotiva XPA-5. I am using the Denon as my Pre/Pro until Emotiva comes out with there new XMC-1. I can tell a big difference with the XPA-5 driving my Paradigm Studio 60's. They are 8ohm nominal. So I would think that an XPA-5 would do a much better job of driving your Axiom's. Also there customer service is awesome. Not sure that Denon's customer service is even in the same class.

Check out some of the Emotiva threads on other forums. Also their reviews on ther equipment all seem to be good. I find it hard to believe that you can do better for the money.

Hope this helps.

Re: Upgrading to Axiom's - Need AVR Advice
Smitty4ut #265678 07/08/09 03:02 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Smitty4ut
I I find it hard to believe that you can do better for the money.


Don't know about that. I found that the "pro" amps offer much better bang for the buck and don't blink an eye at 4 ohms (or even 2 ohms). My QSC has loads more power for 100+db transients, has a smaller (but damn heavy) form factor, and cost less, with a longer warranty and tons more experience with amp design. I'm not knocking Emotiva - I'm a fan of there's. Love that they put a good (if not always perfect) product out there for a good price with solid customer service. Just saying, in the "better for the money" category, I think you can do a tad better. But the Emo's look much better than the pro amps, so you have to consider that...I guess.


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Zimm #265680 07/08/09 03:23 PM
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When I do a search for Pro Amps, I don't really get a company. Can you provide a link? I just know that as soon as I hooked up my XPA-5 compaired to my Denon 3808CI receiver, my daughter was downstairs on the computer. She looked over at me and said wow. Mine was also a B-Stock, that I got for $699.

Sorry I didn't see the QSC at first. I am looking at their web site now.

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Re: Upgrading to Axiom's - Need AVR Advice
Smitty4ut #265681 07/08/09 03:26 PM
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Google....crown pro amps
Google.... yamaha pro amps

just a couple companies that make quality pro amps


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BlueJays1 #265682 07/08/09 03:50 PM
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Behringer-EuroPower is popular amongst frugal audiopiles. Do a search on pro amps @ Musician 's Friend website. Don't know if they still have decent prices, but at least you can browse for a wide selection of pro amp in just one place.


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JaimeG #265693 07/08/09 07:39 PM
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Over the years, companies like Behringer seemed to have geared their products more towards the musical instrument market, however, I am curious about these attractively priced stereo power amps. Generally, the good quality amps for A/V use, in terms of S/N ratio, are pretty quiet. I am curious to know how these amps from companies like Behringer measure up in this particular category?

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casey01 #265834 07/10/09 04:33 PM
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Look up the specs for what ever amp you desire, the S/N ratio is there, it is usually a lower number than home audio amps but still not usually audible.


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