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Re: Building a home theatre incrementally
Scott64 #260395 05/15/09 04:11 AM
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Hello guys!!! I received my order of M80s, VP150, QS8s and EP800 sub a week ago. I would like to put everyone's mind to rest regarding the EP800 as a comparison to other Axiom subs. It is a literal beast!!! It has the deepest, smoothest, clearest and clean sounding bass I have ever heard. And I have heard plenty. The sound is unbelievable. In my opinion, the EP800 is ahead of its time.

If your budget can handle the extra cost or if you can delay your purchase and save the extra cash to get the EP800, you will thank yourself a million times over. This sub will add sound to your audio system that will leave you, your family and friends with their mouths wide open.

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Skin #265619 07/07/09 05:30 PM
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Well, It's been a few weeks since I moved into my house. Got somewhat settled in and set up the speakers. Currently I only have the M80s and the VP150 hooked up.

Very happy with the sound of the M80s for music so far. I haven't done much movie watching yet because someone hit my car and took off while I was at my girlfriend's old place, so the money I had set aside for a new TV had to be spent on paint for my car. I've been able to max out the volume on the 607 without the speakers breaking a sweat. At those volumes, though, it's pretty obvious that a sub would help fill out the lows. The sound seems to be pretty clear and crisp at any volume I've tried.

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Scott64 #265624 07/07/09 07:23 PM
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If you are maxing out the 607, then don't presume it is the M80 lacking the bass. At loud volumes, you need a lot of power, and bass notes take more power than highs. Anywhere near full power and you are clipping hard, which is part of the reason you are lacking some bass. I had a similar issue with my Denon before adding a separate amp to the mix. Now I could sell my sub except for subterranean LFE in some movies.


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Re: Building a home theatre incrementally
Zimm #265665 07/08/09 06:36 AM
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'M80s' and 'lacking bass' should never be uttered in the same sentence. If there is one thing the M80's don't do, it's lack bass. The 15 inch woofers in my old Cerwin Vega's wish they could hit as hard and low as the humble looking 6 inch woofers in the M80's can hit. I'm still looking for the 12 inch cones that are hidden somewhere inside these babies. They did a good job of disguising them, but I just know they're in there somewhere!


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Re: Building a home theatre incrementally
Zimm #265684 07/08/09 04:30 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Zimm
If you are maxing out the 607, then don't presume it is the M80 lacking the bass. At loud volumes, you need a lot of power, and bass notes take more power than highs. Anywhere near full power and you are clipping hard, which is part of the reason you are lacking some bass.
Good call! I completely forgot about that.

Can't see buying a new receiver over it any time soon because the volumes where I noticed a decrease in bass are higher than volumes I'll likely ever use for listening to anything.

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Scott64 #265695 07/08/09 08:08 PM
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I don't want to open the worm farm, but I was surprised that even at lower volumes (say 90db) how much more impact my towers had with the new amp. (Crap, there go the worms! JohnK will be around soon to put them back in their cages.) But this amp can unleash 500 watts without clipping, where as my Denon was rated at 110 (and started clipping at 84 according to lab test). In short, those 16db peaks Alan describes require a ton of instantaneous power, and are delivered unclipped now, whereas they were being clipped from the Denon. (Still happens in 5ch mode as the Denon clips the highs to the center causing some thinness/shrill that I used to get from my towers.)

Got my amp for under $500 and have not regretted it once. Unlike that "special" speaker wire JohnK sold me. He said it was all about the wire. \:o


Just kidding John. ;\)


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Re: Building a home theatre incrementally
Zimm #265696 07/08/09 08:11 PM
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90dB is lower volumes?!


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Re: Building a home theatre incrementally
Ken.C #265697 07/08/09 08:15 PM
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Volume is in the ear of the beholder.


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Ken.C #265698 07/08/09 08:31 PM
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
90dB is lower volumes?!


According to the deaf monk that is silent.


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Re: Building a home theatre incrementally
Zimm #265714 07/09/09 01:41 AM
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Yeah Charles, I hope it was total kidding, because that just ain't the way that amplifiers work.


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