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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
Adrian #270616 08/25/09 07:08 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
Most Monitor Audio speakers are 2 1/2. I think you'll find quite a few out there actually (Alan told me the M50s were a 2 1/2 way before I bought my speakers).

FYI The new MA Platinum lineup floorstandings are a true 3-way design.
The one thing i didn't like about the old Silver and Gold 2.5 way was i found it to be a bit bassy.
Had they crossed over instead, i bet the bass would have been less.


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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
ivorm #270617 08/25/09 07:09 PM
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Hi guys,

I' m looking into buying some Axiom speakers for my first setup. I've been looking at the M60's and maybe building from there to get a full 5.1 or 7.1. I figure I might look elsewhere for the sub as I feel I may get more for my buck but I don't know.

My real question is does anyone have an opinion of another set of mains I'd be able to hear in store to get a feel for what the M60's would be like? I've been to a few places around the city (Halifax) and we seem to have brands like Paradigm, klipsch, PSB, monitor, polk, mordaunt short and probably a few others. We also have FS and BB as well.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Ivor

The Energy Veritas line i thought sounded very similar to M80s, at triple the price.


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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
chesseroo #270619 08/25/09 07:18 PM
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Thanks for all the info guys. I definitely have some work to do, going to try and get out to some of the stores this week. I'll have to call Axiom and get some recommendations on speaker sizes and auditions.

Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
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 Originally Posted By: chesseroo

FYI The new MA Platinum lineup floorstandings are a true 3-way design.
The one thing i didn't like about the old Silver and Gold 2.5 way was i found it to be a bit bassy.
Had they crossed over instead, i bet the bass would have been less.

It was the Bronze/Silver/Gold floorstanders which I was really eluding to, the Silvers being the most likely to be compared to the Axioms. Those PL300s are +++$$$$+++.


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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
Adrian #270623 08/25/09 07:32 PM
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 Originally Posted By: chesseroo

FYI The new MA Platinum lineup floorstandings are a true 3-way design.
The one thing i didn't like about the old Silver and Gold 2.5 way was i found it to be a bit bassy.
Had they crossed over instead, i bet the bass would have been less.

It was the Bronze/Silver/Gold floorstanders which I was really eluding to, the Silvers being the most likely to be compared to the Axioms. Those PL300s are +++$$$$+++.

Yes the MA Silver 6s are well matched to the M60s. I found the S8s to be way too bassy but a beautiful midrange.


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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
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So basically what I heard so far to help hear where the Axiom line stands when I`m shopping for speakers is as follows:

M50 or M22 - Not really sure
M60 - Paradigm Studio 60, B&W 703
M80 - Paradigm Studio 100, B&W 704, Energy Veritas

Does anyone have and insight on the M22`s or the M50`s. Just wondering if the M22`s will do it for me. The girlfriend is already giving me hard time about the price of the M60`s...

Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
ivorm #270634 08/25/09 09:19 PM
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 Originally Posted By: ivorm
So basically what I heard so far to help hear where the Axiom line stands when I`m shopping for speakers is as follows:

M50 or M22 - Not really sure
M60 - Paradigm Studio 60, B&W 703
M80 - Paradigm Studio 100, B&W 704, Energy Veritas

Does anyone have and insight on the M22`s or the M50`s. Just wondering if the M22`s will do it for me. The girlfriend is already giving me hard time about the price of the M60`s...

Some links of reviews on these forums of the speakers of which you speak that you may want to peruse (keep in mind the M40s were a slightly smaller version of the M50s):

http://tinyurl.com/nmeacq
http://tinyurl.com/nb8vyy
http://tinyurl.com/l43eo9
http://tinyurl.com/lbkf7y


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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
ivorm #270637 08/25/09 09:35 PM
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Ivor, it's too bad you didn't let us know your boss had to ok this ;\) otherwise we would have told you to get the M80s and let her talk you "down" to getting the 60s \:D .

Ok, seriously, the M22's have been noted by many on the forums here that when used with a sub they provide a similar sound envelope to the M80s, so I'm sure they will make you happy and if you ever wanted to go to floorstanders in the future you could integrate these as either rears in a 7.1 system or use them in another zone/room.

The Paradigms shouldn't be too hard to locate for you, perhaps less so, the B&Ws and as for the Veritas, I'm not sure if they make them anymore....I couldn't locate any at all early this year, and I live 20 miles from their Markham office.(I could be wrong though).

So you could, in fact, say that M80s/similar to/Pdigm Studio 100/similar to/M22+Sub....the M80s and Studios will go very, very loud(if wanted) where the M22's will go loud.

I haven't heard any B&W speakers but by many accounts, they are similar to the Axiom sound albeit at a higher fee.

I think you'd be very happy with the M22s, just remember you may need to add the price of stands to your purchase to get them up off the floor. If you consider this, it narrows the price down some compared with towers. I'm not sure if someone told you about the 10% FO discount or the 5% HT discount as well.


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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
Adrian #270639 08/25/09 09:48 PM
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the M22's have been noted by many on the forums here that when used with a sub they provide a similar sound envelope to the M80s

Actually, I found them to sound almost identical to the M60 when I did my A/B comparison at Axiom. If it were a choice between the M60 + sub and the M22 + sub, I would go with the M22 + sub.

In the end, the M22, M60 and M80 have a lot in common.


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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
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First of all thanks for all the input guys. It's nice to see that the members here will provide some answer to those of us who are new to this.

 Originally Posted By: Adrian
Ivor, it's too bad you didn't let us know your boss had to ok this ;\) otherwise we would have told you to get the M80s and let her talk you "down" to getting the 60s \:D .


I though the exact same thing as soon as she said it!!

Maybe I'll look into the M22's and a good sub, I'm moving into the new place in a few days (the one I described ealier) and it is a flat so maybe the 60's would be too much. It's only young guys downstairs so they shouldn't mind the noise, I just figured I'd be buying the M60's to future proof my system for when I move into a house in the next year or two.

The idea of another zone down the road is a good point though, I will have that capability on my avr. Do you think I have to spend much on the stands? I saw a pair at the store on saturday for $40 which was more than half off? The were used for demo speakers in the store, but they stopped using them.

Does anyone have any input as to how the Denon 790 would perform with the Axiom's? Some people tell me certain reveivers go better with certain speakers than others.

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