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Re: Skiing Ninja. Anyone heard of this
SolidState #269943 08/20/09 08:38 PM
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Before you guys start attacking me that crossover components makes no difference and demand statistical graphs and double blind studies to prove it, please read these links on a DIY parts site.

http://www.parts-express.com/resources/crossover-help.cfm

http://www.parts-express.com/resources/building-a-crossover.cfm

http://www.parts-express.com/resources/crossover-component-selection-guide.cfm

http://www.parts-express.com/resources/crossover-faqs.cfm

By no means am I saying I can design a cross over for the M80. The nature of the M80 with it's 3 way six driver design is one of the hardest to make a crossover for.

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Re: Skiing Ninja. Anyone heard of this
SolidState #269947 08/20/09 08:48 PM
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Nobody is saying that changing the crossover won't make a difference. If you use components with different values, or a different topology altogether, of course it will sound different.

Do you think that Axiom hasn't experimented with many different crossover designs themselves? Do you think they haven't put these different designs through a series of blind tests to determine which results in the most neutral and natural presentation of sound? Do you think they don't have their own electronics experts with many years of design under their belts?

Your posting of irrelevant links is not helping your case. Also, claiming that Axiom's staff designs and keeps the good crossovers for themselves while foisting substandard crap on us unwitting consumers is laughable.

Re: Skiing Ninja. Anyone heard of this
pmbuko #269948 08/20/09 09:02 PM
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"Nobody is saying that changing the crossover won't make a difference. If you use components with different values, or a different topology altogether, of course it will sound different." And I'm saying you can use the same component with the same value and hear the difference.

Did the Skiiing Ninja ever send his M22 crossover into Axiom? If so what were the results? Improvement?

Solid-State

PS You make out that I'm trying to say Axiom is keeping the good stuff for themselves and passing on crap to us is BS. This is your perception and is hardly the truth. If you understood what I'm trying to say you'd know that's a total insult. Again I'll rant my mantra

"within reason" and "law of diminishing returns.

Re: Skiing Ninja. Anyone heard of this
SolidState #269949 08/20/09 09:04 PM
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 Originally Posted By: SolidState
Did the Skiiing Ninja ever send his M22 crossover into Axiom? If so what were the results? Improvement?

He never sent them.

Re: Skiing Ninja. Anyone heard of this
pmbuko #269950 08/20/09 09:06 PM
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Your posting of irrelevant links is not helping your case. Also, claiming that Axiom's staff designs and keeps the good crossovers for themselves while foisting substandard crap on us unwitting consumers is laughable.

Really, Peter... this whole thing has become laughable....


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Re: Skiing Ninja. Anyone heard of this
Ya_basta #269951 08/20/09 09:10 PM
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Hubba, hubba! I surely do love solid state physiques.


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Re: Skiing Ninja. Anyone heard of this
fredk #269952 08/20/09 09:15 PM
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 Originally Posted By: fredk
Hubba, hubba! I surely do love solid state physiques.


*whispers hastily in Fred's ear*


aw crap, I posted in this thread...

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Re: Skiing Ninja. Anyone heard of this
Ken.C #269953 08/20/09 09:21 PM
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You have just forfeited your popcorn rights.


Wait a minute....Dohhh!


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Re: Skiing Ninja. Anyone heard of this
Adrian #269954 08/20/09 09:31 PM
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sigh.....next class we will discuss how speakers "open up" during cable break-in. This thread has turned into a lot of nonsense.




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Re: Skiing Ninja. Anyone heard of this
Adrian #269956 08/20/09 09:42 PM
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I'm going to back this thread up to where it was claimed we don't understand how gravity works. Keep in mind I'm don't work for any University or Physics lab or anything like that, but I know how gravity works. Anything with any mass what-so-ever has it's own gravitational pull. That's because 'stuff' is made up of atoms. Atoms are electronically charged, therefore they are magnetically attracted to eachother. Therefore anything with enough mass will attract anything else with mass. It doesn't really become that obvious until you gain as much mass as a planet or a moon. The bigger the planet or moon, the more gravity it possesses. It's really not that hard to understand.

Ok, now we can all check that one off the list! ;\)


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