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Re: Behringer Amps
fredk #273109 09/24/09 02:03 AM
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Thank you, Fred.

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Re: Behringer Amps
SolidState #273190 09/25/09 01:34 AM
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 Originally Posted By: SolidState
Behringer stuff for the most part is total mainland Chinese crapola... It would be a total waste of money to purchase their amp. You'd be a lot better off getting the Emotiva UPA-2 for a hundred bucks more. It's a triple darlington so it's in a whole other class!

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PS Behringer is like the Monster of musician audio products. They are involved in constant lawsuits over copying other companies designs and use their size and muscle to screw smaller EE houses. Total A-holes with absolute crapola products. STAY CLEAR!


Well, like Emotiva, Behringer has put out some crap as well as some very good products. Now if what you tell me is correct about their bully tactics then that would certainly sour my view on them as a company.

Solid-State, research the Behringer 2030P studio monitors and tell me if they are crap for the price. To say all their products are crap is simply not true.

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Re: Behringer Amps
BlueJays1 #273206 09/25/09 05:19 PM
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It would be interesting to know if anybody is aware, at least for the purpose of this discussion, if any piece of A/V equipment made today, regardless of price and where it might be assembled, is NOT MADE with the innards manufactured in the Far East, primarily CHINA! I don't know of any.

The fact is this is nothing new in the world of consumer electronics. I have a Toshiba 65" RP CRT that was assembled in New Jersey but when I got a chance to look under the hood, I noticed ALL the circuit boards and related equipment said "MADE IN CHINA". That was in 2001! It is still working beautifully.

Emotiva is made in China and so is Behringer along with most others. Today, that is the price we pay for getting a "bigger bang for our buck".

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casey01 #273211 09/25/09 06:04 PM
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McIntosh, B&K, Magnepan, quite a few high-end amplifiers (both tube and solid-state)? Good observation about the percentage of the process done off-shore, though; I can't verify that.


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Re: Behringer Amps
tomtuttle #273284 09/26/09 03:12 PM
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To address a few of the above: (1) my QSC GX-5 is fantastic given the price and expectations - i.e., cheap and great sound. You have to deal with the fan noise, but it was easy. I can provide more if anyone needs it, but I have posted a good bit about it and don't want to bog down this thread.

(2) The QSC is on my list of DIY sub projects because it has so much power and has RCA inputs. One limit on the GX series is that you can't bridge them to mono, but other models near that price do allow bridging and some have crossover options to allow passive x-over for non-LFE tracks (music, etc.)

What I have come to like about QSC is that they are a huge company with years of experience, yet you get real techs on the forum working to fix problems, etc. Really good bang for the buck from a solid brick and mortar company that makes its real money on commercial theaters and live concerts...unless you want this for your TH: Theater speaker package


Finally, there is nothing wrong with Chinese mfg, but quality control is key. For all I know the QSC amps are Made in China, but the inside is clean with a nice layout, and solid construction. I don't care where it was made (but I'd prefer US or Canada!).


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Zimm #273289 09/26/09 04:13 PM
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Since the discussion here concerns primarily Behringer equipment, as many know Behringer is a German company who designs the stuff but still has it manufactured offshore to their specifications. This is pretty well, the case with most electronics(although not necessarily speaker) companies nowadays. The mammoth AND contrary to some opinions, quite "state-of-the art" operations that have been set up in China and the cost structure they have created makes it a situation where a company like Behringer could NEVER sell their product at anywhere near those prices if they were made in Germany.

You can buy an Anthem, Classe, Krell among other so-called "high-end" product that is designed and assembled in North America and pay many times more for it(much higher labor costs) but ironically if you opened it up and looked inside, I would almost guarantee you most(if not all) of the parts are STILL made in the Far East.

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casey01 #273315 09/27/09 01:07 AM
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Yes, but they are all blessed by a deaf monk and then insulted by Arte Johnson. Makes Behringer much superior to your average Chinese product!

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fredk #273323 09/27/09 02:04 AM
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The Deaf Monk checks the power output(quality assurance) of each amp leaving the Behringer factory by placing his tongue over the output terminals.


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Adrian #273331 09/27/09 03:21 AM
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...insulted by Arte Johnson...


LOL \:\) Very good, Fred.


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Re: Behringer Amps
fredk #273593 09/29/09 10:41 PM
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 Originally Posted By: fredk
Yes, but they are all blessed by a deaf monk and then insulted by Arte Johnson. Makes Behringer much superior to your average Chinese product!


No, No, No. The Drunk Monk works in China checking voltage with his tongue. The Deaf Monk and the Drunk Monk broke up their firm, Deaf & Drunk, in the late '70s to protest the Alan Parson's Project. Deaf only works with wire now.


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