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Hello All
I am dismayed to learn that some manufacturers are still over stating their receivers power, are all manufacturers guilty of this do they take us for fools... I work in construction and a 2x4 is a 2x4 and a 2x6 is a 2x6 what is the point of publishing specs if they are false..?
I just bought a yammie rx-v1400 should I return the goddamn thing, yammie claims 7 x 110 but from what I have learned its about 35 per channel whats up?/////

*sigh*
Even a 2x4 isn't a 2x4...

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Manufactured dimensions depend on the state of manufacture; a surfaced-dry softwood 2x4 is required by the American Softwood Lumber Standard (USDC 1970) to be a minimum of 1.5 inches by 3.5 inches. Actual dimensions are obtained by measuring individual pieces with calipers.

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does it sound good to you at 35w per channel?

I personally feel they are lieing to us customers, and will no longer buy their product. My previous receiver was a Yamaha 2090.

What matters is how you like the sound. I just do nto liek being lied to, so they no longer get my money(for a receiver, that is).

Yup. As I recall, the 2x4 dimension is how they are cut prior to being dried. Shrinkage occurs during the drying process.

AXEL, a 10 year old 2x4 is not the same as a 50 year old, or 2 year old 2x4 is it. they surely don't measure 2 inches by 4 inches.

well ok maybe a 2x4 wasnt the best comparison...
and yes there are good and bad 2x4s spf dry and green warped ones so on & so on
you guys are killing me! LOL
cheers

There was an earlier thread where a large listing of claimed power vs. actual power was linked. The H/Ks appeared to be the best, as they in some cases UNDERstated the power.

Perhaps a better comparison would be a tape measure or something. Where an inch is always an inch...

Check out this review. It's for the 2400 but it may be helpful. This review states that the 2400 will achieve full power with two channels running but drops with all channels running. I'm sure this applies to the 1400 as well.
www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/YamahaRXV-2400Receiver-p1.html

So, Ken, if my Denon is 17.7 inches wide, how many wpc is that?

Don't get hung up on specs. I'm sure the Yamaha 1400 is a fine piece of gear, and that Yamaha is no more guilty of creative statistical interpretation than any other manufacturer.

Also, if you have a powered sub and reasonably efficient speakers (like Axioms), you are very unlikely to ever push your receiver to its limits without damaging your hearing. If you regularly listen very loudly, you probably should be looking at separates. For most folks, a good quality receiver is going to have plenty of juice for virtually any application.

Axel, in my view power ratings aren't being "overstated"; the ratings are accurate in the light of different rating standards applied by different groups. As the 2400 review which Mike has linked points out, driving all channels at full power for an extended period of time isn't a realistic requirement for real-world operation. Music doesn't work that way, but instead has brief moments requiring high power, even less frequently in the surround channels, so this shouldn't be a matter of great concern.