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Re: Upgraditus bit me again...
#27417 12/15/03 08:15 PM
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Chess can be a bit uptight sometimes. Don't mind him.

Re: Upgraditus bit me again...
#27418 12/15/03 08:47 PM
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Just call me nitpicky.


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Re: Upgraditus bit me again...
#27419 12/15/03 09:57 PM
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Ok. Henceforth, ye shall be known as "nitpickyroo".


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Re: Upgraditus bit me again...
#27420 12/17/03 12:35 AM
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I've heard it with some Theil PCS's (very nice speakers)...The sound was very Nice: Fast and responsive, but lacked any depth/warmth, not a bad thing (I guess) but it seemed to be a little too stoic for my taste.. in comparison the Bryston 3B SST is another story...Bryston has gotten it right again! Balls to the wall headroom, linearity and warmth...they bring out the best in just about any speaker they connect to...

Congrats on your new purchase! I just bougnt a Mei-Xing MC-7R valve rectifier tube preamp (www.mei-xing.com). I switched out the stock chinese 12AX7's with some NOS Telefunkens and its the best dang preamp I've ever heard, very stylish too! I am trying to convince my wife to buy me some Magnepan MG 1.6's for xmas...oh yeah!

Re: Upgraditus bit me again...
#27421 12/17/03 03:21 AM
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I personally would not try to compare a speaker to an amp...following your statement I would be lead to believe Brystons would bring warmth to a stoic speaker like the Theils but I do not think thats the case. Ones experience as stoic can be someone elses detail and crispness. Ones warmth is anothers rolled off mid range. So its really up to each individuals tastes. Theil CS 2.3 is still one of top speakers rated by many stereophiles. It has loads of detail, definition and air ... like the M80Ti.


Re: Upgraditus bit me again...
#27422 12/17/03 04:23 AM
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In reply to:

following your statement I would be lead to believe Brystons would bring warmth to a stoic speaker like the Theils but I do not think thats the case. Ones experience as stoic can be someone elses detail and crispness. Ones warmth is anothers rolled off mid range. So its really up to each individuals tastes.



I agree with you 100% here Saturn.
A friend of mine passed along a Robertson amp to try out with my Axioms awhile back.
He was going on and on how this amp would really 'tame' the brightness of the Axioms. My wife smirked at his statement after she heard it a/b with our Onkyo.
We got more toning down of the Axiom 'brightness' by adding the little resistor, not by changing an amp.

I should also add for those that are interested, you can REALLY tune down the brightness of Axioms (if you so deem them as being 'bright') by putting two couch pillows up against your ears.
Trust me on this one, it REALLY tames the Axiom brightness, and the Energy brightness, and the Paradigm brightness and....



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Re: Upgraditus bit me again...
#27423 12/17/03 06:37 AM
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... and it apparently tames your own brightness, too.

Re: Upgraditus bit me again...
#27424 12/21/03 06:18 PM
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Well since you all brought it up I need to ask something. I to find the Axiom's bright. I also keep the grills off 24/7. Does anybody notice a big difference with the grills on? So far I can't hear much difference but I can also honestly say I have never really sat down and did critical listening with the grills on then off.

As for the Stratos helping out the brightness of the Axiom's, I would say that no the Stratos does not make them any brighter then they are already. That is the one thing I love about Klaus's stuff. It really doesn't add much to the source. No warmth, no brightness not much of nothing. Just clean power. Last time I checked that is all I want an amp to do anyway!

My HT3 will be here the second week in January by the way! In case anybody cares and is thinking about one of these. Klaus has a cap upgrade for these also. If I'm not mistaken it's for the center only!

Re: Upgraditus bit me again...
#27425 12/21/03 07:15 PM
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Speaker grilles are designed so they do not impede the sound.
If they did not, then companies would most likely not use them regardless of their questionable 'protective' value
Grilles on or off is a non-concern.

Last edited by chesseroo; 12/21/03 07:20 PM.

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Re: Upgraditus bit me again...
#27426 12/21/03 08:52 PM
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I agree with your comments on what the grills are not supposed to do but my ears have told me different in the past. My Paradigm Studio 100's most definitely sounded different with the grills on. The biggest change I have ever heard came with a set of B&W 604's. Huge difference with the grills on versus off. Anyway, like I said I do agree with your comments but I have seen grills make a difference before.

Perhaps all manufactures grills are not created equal?

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