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Re: 80s vs 60s
Chevy #275177 10/16/09 01:31 PM
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The 80s have excellent bass on their own, but they wouldn't be able to hit the very low, clean bass of the dedicated sub(EP500) combined with the 60s. Nevertheless, as others have stated, I was surprised at how low the 80s can go in stereo with no sub.


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Re: 80s vs 60s
Adrian #275197 10/16/09 04:34 PM
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I have the 60's and a 500 - Never having been exposed to the 80's, I can not imagine a better sound than I get. You would not be dissapointed either way - but now that I have had a good sub, I would never be without one. Even at low volumes watching regular TV the sub gives it that "full" sound.


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Re: 80s vs 60s
Argon #275208 10/16/09 05:29 PM
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Just as the others have said, I found the 80s, when I tested the A1400, had great amounts of bass on their own. I even had pictures rattling from the bass and it wasn't from loud volume levels however, once my Pb13 was brought in to the equation I could tell the 80s were not hitting as low.


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Re: 80s vs 60s
jakewash #275222 10/16/09 06:16 PM
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My thoughts when I was at the Axiom plant and did the A&B comparison is, If I was only going to listen to music. I could easily get away with M80's. No sub required, and even today I turn my EP500 off when listening to music. If you are only looking for HT, then the M60's and a good sub is a great way to go. As for me, I use my HT room for both, I went with the 80's and the sub.

The biggest difference I noticed between the two where the 80's bass. I didn't feel the difference was subtle at all. Switching back and forth with my eyes closed I could pick out the 80's every time. Not that it was better bass either, just more of it. I kept having to ask to make sure the subwoofer was in the room was turned off.

Use 80's for music, use 60's and sub for HT, use 80's and sub for both.

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Re: 80s vs 60s
Worfzara #275283 10/16/09 11:15 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Worfzara

Use 80's for music, use 60's and sub for HT, use 80's and sub for both.



Nicely summed up with that sentence \:\)


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Re: 80s vs 60s
jakewash #275398 10/18/09 12:10 AM
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So what do you think these guys think about upgrading to the 80's and using the 60s for another room or would you go another route?


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Re: 80s vs 60s
jhunt17 #275401 10/18/09 12:35 AM
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Hmm. If the objective was to put speakers on another room for 2 channel listening, I would leave the 60's with the sub and put the 80s in the other room.

If the objective is to upgrade the sound in your main room and putting the 60's in the other room was a was to get some use out of them, I would spend my money on another sub for the main room. Not to confuse things or anything...


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Re: 80s vs 60s
fredk #275428 10/18/09 04:49 AM
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I prefer M80s for 2 channel listening, when watching movies M60 or M80s sound virtually identical except if the volume is low then the M80s win, IMO.


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