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Re: Windows 7 PC Build
myrison #277282 11/02/09 12:52 PM
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The fan that came with my Intel Core II Duo when I built a good while ago is definitely the loudest thing in my box.

Quiet a statement considering I have a 10" fan built into a side panel. It performs nicely though. Especially now that it is using the full amount of 8GB of RAM that I salvaged from my Uncle's 'tossed aside' PC, thanks to Windows 7's 64 bit mode that actually works with things.


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Re: Windows 7 PC Build
Murph #277284 11/02/09 01:17 PM
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Jason. I'm not an over-clocker, so better=quieter.

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thanks to Windows 7's 64 bit mode that actually works with things.

So there is actually decent driver support for Windows 7 64 bit? I wanted to go 64 bit with vista, but the driver support just wasn't there yet.


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Re: Windows 7 PC Build
fredk #277288 11/02/09 03:02 PM
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 Originally Posted By: fredk
So there is actually decent driver support for Windows 7 64 bit? I wanted to go 64 bit with vista, but the driver support just wasn't there yet.

When Vista first shipped, there was indeed a shortage of 64-bit drivers, but that was 3 years ago. In that time every manufacturer started shipping proper drivers. So unless you've got some really old piece of equipment there shouldn't be a problem. Especially if you're building a new machine, there's absolutely nothing to worry about.


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Re: Windows 7 PC Build
fredk #277291 11/02/09 03:16 PM
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The install process seems to automatically go retrieve the latest 'tested' drivers right from the common peripheral companies themselves.

After my fresh install to a clean drive, it already had downloaded the latest nVidia drivers and even extra software for my graphics card, my two monitors worked(and it immediately ran in the highest rez possible on both without me tweaking it,) the drivers and extra software for my web cam mysteriously appeared, my USB hard drive worked, USB flash memory worked, sound card worked, Cannon camera synced..... Everything worked with zero effort on my part.

Software wise, no problems with anything I have loaded so far.
- MS Office
- MS Visio
- Firefox (Note: Not a bug but Firefox tabs don't show as separate previews when you hover over the icon like the new Explorer does. I'm sure they will add the feature later.)

- Loaded Avast's 64 bit compatible anti-virus. Works great. Already saved my azz from a mistyped URL taking me to an infected web page.

- Just using MS firewall, for now.
- Plugged in my Zune and it automatically downloaded a 64 bit version of it's software.
- iTunes worked. (Had to reauthorize PC due to clean install.)

Perhaps most importantly, Everquest II works fine. In fact it's way better than ever now that it can use all 8 MB of RAM. Zoning is almost instantaneous now compared to before.

Only slight issue so far is that when I load my iGoogle home screen in 64bit Explorer, the gmail widget works but the hotmail one won't load. Works fine in 32bit Explorer or Firefox though and of course the actual hotmail web page is fine. So, pretty insignificant at this point.

However.... I should add that the new email client, "MSN Live Mail", allowed me to consolidate my I'net providers POP email, my Hotmail, and my gMail all into one. Very nice. You can see all unread emails in one convenient list, regardless of what type of mailbox it arrived in.

I'm sure there must be some leftovers but they sure seemed to have gotten 64 bit perfected compared to Vista, for sure.


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Re: Windows 7 PC Build
Murph #277292 11/02/09 03:35 PM
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Thanks gents. It was 2 years ago that I built my HTPC and drivers were still an issue then.

Hmm... I could upgrade to Windows 7 and pop some 2 gig sticks into my HTPC.


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Re: Windows 7 PC Build
Murph #277293 11/02/09 03:35 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Murph
Firefox (Note: Not a bug but Firefox tabs don't show as separate previews when you hover over the icon like the new Explorer does. I'm sure they will add the feature later.)

I hope not. That's the only thing that really locked up my computer: having about 20 tabs open in IE, and then hovering over the task bar. I hardly use IE, but have made sure to turn that off now.


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Re: Windows 7 PC Build
Murph #277360 11/02/09 09:28 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Murph
- Loaded Avast's 64 bit compatible anti-virus. Works great. Already saved my azz from a mistyped URL taking me to an infected web page.


Hate those mistyped URLs. I generally blame it on the booze, but bad typing is a good excuse.

That reminds me of the funniest URL issue I have seen. Check out these two sites; one pure business, the other, an old business: www.southcoastangelfund.com , not www.southcoastangles.com


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Re: Windows 7 PC Build
CV #277410 11/03/09 05:28 AM
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 Originally Posted By: CV
Well, I submitted an information request to Antec about using the Prolima Megahalems with their P193, but it gave me no confirmation of my request, so I guess we'll see if it actually went through as the time passes.


Well, here's their response:

 Originally Posted By: Antec Support
Comment: Hi,

It's a 6.2 inches thermal module. It's really too high for the case.
If it's around 6 inches...then okay.

Thank you
antec support!


I do like how excited they are to be Antec Support.

Re: Windows 7 PC Build
CV #277445 11/03/09 02:26 PM
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Speaking of PC builds, yesterday I replaced my aging hard drive with a new 128GB SSD drive from Crucial (their M225 line).

For those of you who have never run their OS from an SSD before, it is an immediate and amazing change. My entire boot process from POST completion to Win7 login page is around 30 seconds (changed from about 90). However, that is just the beginning... From the time I type my password in and hit enter until Windows has completely loaded, including all of my startup programs (dozens), it takes FOUR seconds. Yes, FOUR. (this was easily a 90-120 second process before the upgrade)

On top of fabulously fast start up times, application use is also screaming fast. Excel, Word, Outlook, Firefox, etc. all open immediately after clicking the icon. (i.e. no loading bar, no delay. It is immediate)

I'm not sure I can go so far to say that the upgrade is worth what the drives cost right now, but if you are a computer geek (you're reading this thread, so you're probably dangerously close at the very least) and don't mind spending a bit more to get the newest technology, it is a very fun upgrade that you will immediately notice.

Happy Shopping. \:\)

Jason


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Re: Windows 7 PC Build
myrison #277450 11/03/09 02:38 PM
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Excuse my ignorance....

Aren't faster drives (10K and 15K) less reliable?


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