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#279147 - 11/15/09 10:48 AM Floor standing or On Wall
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First I have to say this forum totally rocks!

Building a new theater room. Currently have W22's and W150. In the new home I think I can increase the size of my screen quite a bit by placing the speakers behind an acoustical screen. Seems if I spend enough I can get a screen that will not affect the sound enough to worry. Plus i can always turn up the channel leves a bit on the speakers.

Question is this. I think In considering all the scenarios I will be able to afford to trade in the On Wall speakers for the M60 floor standing speakers and a VP150 Center. Would it be worth the extra expense or should i just mount my On Wall behind the acoustical screen?

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Edited by aspicer1 (11/15/09 11:12 AM)
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#279161 - 11/15/09 02:00 PM Re: Floor standing or On Wall [Re: aspicer1]
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How big is the new room compared to the current room ? Unless the new room is deeper *and* significantly larger in volume I guess my first thought would be to stay with what you have.

Then again I imagine there's a few db of loss going through the acoustical screen, so if you're playing near the volume limits of the current speakers it might be worth going to M60s in order to get some extra headroom.

In other words, I don't know either \:\)
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#279164 - 11/15/09 02:34 PM Re: Floor standing or On Wall [Re: bridgman]
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I always prefer floor-standers over in/on wall speakers because with floor-standers you have more flexibility. You can move them around to get the best sound stage.
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#279168 - 11/15/09 03:46 PM Re: Floor standing or On Wall [Re: dewd]
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My vote also goes to floor standing models. However, I don't think you'll regret it if you buy in-walls and build your theater around them. Either way, you will have a superb sounding HT.
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#279278 - 11/16/09 07:42 PM Re: Floor standing or On Wall [Re: Micah]
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ok thanks. Is there a big difference between the M60 and M80?
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#279300 - 11/17/09 02:03 AM Re: Floor standing or On Wall [Re: aspicer1]
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A couple inches in depth and height and a couple more drivers here and there ;\)

There isn't a huge difference and if you never do a direct A/B comparison you might not realize there is a difference. I did do and A/B and IMO, the M80s have better bass and the highs are crisper. The M80s had better detail at lower volumes but the M60s were slightly more forgiving with less than optimum music sources, YMMV.
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#279307 - 11/17/09 05:37 AM Re: Floor standing or On Wall [Re: jakewash]
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As Jake points out, the 80's do have an extra tweeter and midrange driver in each cabinet. I can't testify to the differences between the two like he can, but I can certainly boast about the M80's ability to produce outstanding detail. My normal seatin position is 17 feet away from my towers and in the center, right in the 'sweet spot'. However as of late I have been sitting at the end of the other couch which sits about 6 feet from my left main channel speaker. And let me tell you, sitting this close, the things I hear in my music... it's jaw dropping how well they reproduce sounds. And for some strange reason I have come to really love the sound at this angle. The right main channel speaker is about 12 feet from that seat, and the effect of having the signal from each speaker reaching my ear at different times expands the sound field to unimaginable levels. It's truely amazing. All this time I figured I had it best in the sweet spot, but now I'm really digging the exact opposite!

You have to hear this for yourself, it's totally insane how good these speakers are. Try em for 30 days, I'll bet you a case of beer they'll never get packed up and shipped back. You'll love them!
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#279380 - 11/17/09 02:38 PM Re: Floor standing or On Wall [Re: Micah]
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17 feet away is quite a bit further than i will be. My theater room is 18x18x8 with 2 rows. first row center would be my personal seating position. I probably wont ever listen to music on these. purely a theater room. I suppose my first row will be about 10 feet from the screen and the speakers will be mounted behind the screen on a recessed stage. The center speaker will also be there and probably on a stand to place it at ear level. I was worried about the M80's being a bit taller and sitting above floor level by a few feet. That is one of the reasons i was looking at the M60's. Of course price is also part of the reason. I will have an ep350 sub and figured that would run all of the base. Can I run base through the sub and the fronts? I worry that the base will vibrate the screen since they will be behind the screen.
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#279396 - 11/17/09 03:13 PM Re: Floor standing or On Wall [Re: aspicer1]
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If you go with a good sub like the ep350, you will most likely want to run your main speakers as small, thus leaving all the heavy bass under 80Hz for the subwoofer to handle. After all, that's it's job.

The M60s are fabulous speakers and you will be amazed how they sound. I can't imagine mine sounding any batter than they do already but they claim the M80s are M60s+1. However, neither should vibrate the screen on their own unless you turn them up to extremely unhealthy levels.

I doubt very much that the subwoofer will vibrate the screen unless the driver and port is very close to the screen material. I wouldn't put it back there if it was nearly touching the screen. Also, they are designed to move large amounts of air in all directions to produce smooth bass sound. It will likely perform a lot better if not in a small enclosed space. I personally would leave it out somewhere in the room where it sounds best but sometimes we all have to make sacrifices.

Other than that, because they are omnidirectional, if you crank it so loud that the screen would actually vibrate, it is likely that it's position just won't matter. It can vibrate things equally in all directions. I just wrote another post about my ep500 and my poor drywall.




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#279401 - 11/17/09 03:26 PM Re: Floor standing or On Wall [Re: Murph]
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Thats great insight! Thanks. I'm worried now about the space they fronts and center will occupy. Best guess right now is area designated will be a recess about 2 feet deep into a wall. there will be some space in front of the speakers and some behind but not more than 6 inches i would say either way. Above and to each side they will be several feet from the nearest wall.
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