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I have a Samsung 40" LNT4069 (obsolete now, it is a couple years old and first gen to have the 120hz), the latest craze is 240hz. I haven't noticed a huge improvement in PQ on my set vs a standard LCD, in particular my father's 46" Sharp. I think his displays sporting events better than mine. My Samsung has the dreaded triple ball effect, this is where a thrown football sometimes shows up as a blur and looks like there are three or more footballs occupying the same space on the display. I have never noticed this on the Sharp. The response rate on my TV is 5ms and the Sharp is less than 4ms from what I have been able to find from reviews. I think this is why I have an issue and has nothing to do with the 120hz. I believe the double and triple refresh rates deals more with an HD signa(1080P) than anything else. Most reviews I have read state many TV's/reviewers prefer their TV with the feature turned off. I have a Sony XBR and I don't use any of the special settings. Just straight up cable and tweaks to the color, contrast, brightness, etc. If you read through the infinite posts at AVS, the consensus is generally that the special settings mostly make things worse as opposed to enhancing the picture.
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That seems to be the case with many of the newer TV's. I went to a site that posts profesional setting of various flat screens(can't remember the name, bookmark on other computer) etc. and looked up my TV for settings. I printed them off and set the TV and to my surprise they were the exact settings found when you set the TV to movie mode, go figure. Nothing special with this mode except brightness and color settings no other special features turned on.
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Peter,
Out of curiosity, are you OTA antenna, Satellite or cable?
OTA and satellite (Dish Network HD). Uncompressed OTA HD feeds are supposed to be clearer and better than compressed satellite HD feeds. But I can't say that I can really tell a difference. Both look great to me. I pick up FOX & NBC via OTA antenna. I get the channels on Dish HD too, but I use the OTA because it frees up a sat tuner. I've flipped between the Dish vs OTA feeds, and other than a 3 or 4 second delay on the Dish feeds, they appear identical. And I've certainly never seen any "triple-ball" effects. We watch enough football; that'd most certainly drive me nuts.
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So....is Satellite compressed as much as cable? I see plenty of pixelization - even in some of the nature programs. The other night watching the Whales - certain scenes especially where the whales were breaching and there was lots of spray and splashing - most of those scened pixelated.
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So....is Satellite compressed as much as cable? I see plenty of pixelization - even in some of the nature programs. The other night watching the Whales - certain scenes especially where the whales were breaching and there was lots of spray and splashing - most of those scened pixelated. I don't know. I'd think it would depend on the cable company. I do know that my local cable company sucks. From friends & colleagues, I know that their HD feeds *do* break up and suffer from pixelation and other digital artifacts. When we had cable, X years ago, they had problems with static and ghosting on just normal SD programming, and they'd blame it on the national feed. Yeah, right. This is the main reason that I (and many others in my town) go with Dish Network or DirecTV. The only time I ever get any kind of pixelation, digital artifacts, or signal loss on the Dish is due to rain fade. Two or three times a year we'll get a big midwestern, hail-dropping, tornado-spewing, trailer-park eating supercell thunderstorm of sufficient magnitude to cause signal problems/loss for 5-10 minutes.
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The local cable company in Montreal is passthrough for HD channels (I know one of the program manager there). Images are sharp and whenever there are issues (rare) it is always limited to one channel, which points to the source being bad.
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Well, as luck would have it, Newegg.com just put up an AMAZING deal on a 46" 120Hz LCD about 7 minutes ago. I grabbed one as part of my Black Friday shopping. Not because it was 120Hz, but just because of the great deal on the size for one with decent specs. I will be sure to turn off the motion enhancement stuff when it comes.
I picked up a Sharp 46" 4ms 1080p(not that 720p isn't more than enough for this size TV) 120Hz LCD (LC-46SB57U).
Bad thing now is that I work 2 hours from home, so my family will get to enjoy it more than me. :-(
Oh well. It will be a nice upgrade from our 12 year old 27" CRT.
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Remember when 27 inches was big? I had a 36 inch tube, and that was considered obscene. Now everyone flops 40+ inches into the living room like it's nothing.
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Yeah. Keep in mind that a 27" "regular 3:4" TV requires a 33" 16:9 format TV to get the same vertical picture (with extra "width" of course)... But a jump to 46" will be nice...
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Funny that you mention that. I went from my 36" 4:3 to a 32" 16:9, because just about everything I was watching on the 4:3 was already 16:9 or shorter, so I wasn't actually losing vertical picture size.
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