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#280221 - 11/23/09 10:21 AM Which Sub(s)?
jahusker Offline
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Guys,

My room is going to be 35x16x9 I am looking at a few options around the $1000 mark. What would you suggest?

2x AV123 MFW-15 $999.99
2x Hsu VTF-3 MK# $1258.00
1x Epik Phonenix $1099.00
1x eD A7-350 $1020.00
1x Axiom EP500 1168.50

Thanks,

Jason

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#280231 - 11/23/09 12:36 PM Re: Which Sub(s)? [Re: jahusker]
Potatohead Offline
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Well, this is the Axiom board, but the HSU's are just a much better value (sorry guys) at this point in time. I would also consider 2 x SVS PB12-NSD's. I have recently come to find out the hard way that two subs are much better than one. That is a HUGE room, you'll be much better off with two IMO, let alone the better performance.

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#280236 - 11/23/09 01:19 PM Re: Which Sub(s)? [Re: Potatohead]
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There are lots of subs cheaper than the EP500, but they are not apples to apples in performance.
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#280237 - 11/23/09 01:33 PM Re: Which Sub(s)? [Re: SirQuack]
jahusker Offline
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how is it not an apples to apples comparison?

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#280238 - 11/23/09 02:10 PM Re: Which Sub(s)? [Re: jahusker]
Potatohead Offline
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The only ones I am familiar with are the SVS, HSU and Axiom. They all look like they can do 17 - 18 hz without an issue at +/- 3 dB. They're all 430 - 500 watts. I am not sure about the HSU, but both the Axiom and SVS have digital processing. The Axiom does look as if it can play louder than the other two at a given frequency, but it's double the price. Double up on the other two, and you have 3 - 5 db more ability, which evens the playing field.

Of course, two gigantic boxes in the room may not be what everyone wants :).




Edited by Potatohead (11/23/09 02:17 PM)

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#280240 - 11/23/09 02:17 PM Re: Which Sub(s)? [Re: Potatohead]
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By the size of your room, I would recommend dual subs as the best way to have a more even response in your room. Judging by the reports/reviews of the MFW-15, this would be the way to go, especially if the new amps do in fact repair the problems they were having with them or go for the tried and true Hsu in dual form.
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#280258 - 11/23/09 04:43 PM Re: Which Sub(s)? [Re: jakewash]
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I haven't heard any of these subs before, so I might as well throw in another one I've not heard....Outlaw Audio, seem to be reasonably priced as well.
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#280268 - 11/23/09 06:17 PM Re: Which Sub(s)? [Re: SirQuack]
Wid Offline
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack
There are lots of subs cheaper than the EP500, but they are not apples to apples in performance.


I know of a couple of folks who has heard both in their rooms that preferred the Hsu to the Axiom. I would go with two subs from Hsu or Av123 over one from the other manufacturers.
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#280269 - 11/23/09 06:27 PM Re: Which Sub(s)? [Re: Wid]
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I wouldn't buy the MFW under any circumstances.

1. They have ongoing quality issues, some amp related, but also veneer and loose/missing screw issues on the drivers.

2. Screws into MDF is not a good way to secure a driver

3. They have ongoing financial issues and are unable to meet all their previous commitments to customers.
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#280270 - 11/23/09 06:33 PM Re: Which Sub(s)? [Re: fredk]
Wid Offline
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Well I guess I would then have to go with the pair of Hsu subs.
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