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#281925 - 12/09/09 06:39 PM More Misformation about Axiom's!!!
Stereoguy99 Offline
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Hi: I belong to "Digital Home" one of the moderators "Hugh" had some interesting things(negative) to say about Axiom here is the link to it: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=116264

I find his lack of knowledge about Axioms laughable for a host of a site!! It is one thing to like the paradigms better but not slag them.See what you guys think.


Edited by Stereoguy99 (12/09/09 06:39 PM)
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#281937 - 12/09/09 08:04 PM Re: More Misformation about Axiom's!!! [Re: Stereoguy99]
casey01 Offline
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I am sure you could go to every forum talking about every speaker brand in existence and you will find AT LEAST one individual like this. It is not uncommon. This is subjectivity carried to the ridiculous, uninformed end of the spectrum. I also chuckle when you hear someone who "claim" they have compared similar style speakers of quality well known brands who talk about one "blowing away" the other in terms of performance or some other ridiculous comment like that. Those differences just don't exist especially when you are comparing Canadian built speakers like Paradigm and Axiom.

A significant number, especially many in the US are not aware that these companies along with PSB and others all started with the same roots of measuring speaker performance and developing their products at the NRC in Ottawa, hence, aside from their own particular cabinet designs, transparent, neutral sound is what the goal is of all them which, in turn, makes their "sound" similar to one another.

That is why as far as anyone who knows anything about the different speaker brands and their design (and have actually listened to them), know that comments like this are totally irrelevant.

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#281947 - 12/09/09 10:50 PM Re: More Misformation about Axiom's!!! [Re: casey01]
roar Offline
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Registered: 11/06/06
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Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
I didn't think his 'critism' was too bad at all. The only input I thought he really gave was that he didn't like their build quality, what can you do, that was his opninion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I think we've all read a lot worse about axiom from some other links posted here.

I really enjoy mine and I think that's what matters. \:\)

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#281948 - 12/09/09 11:08 PM Re: More Misformation about Axiom's!!! [Re: roar]
Adrian Offline
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He was misinforming people about the cost difference between the Studios and the Axioms and when someone posted the actual pricing differences he shut the thread down.
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#281952 - 12/09/09 11:44 PM Re: More Misformation about Axiom's!!! [Re: Adrian]
Ajax Offline
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I particularly enjoyed his "I've been rudely assaulted by a first time poster (who is a member of the Axiom Audio forum) and by an "old hand" at the Axiom website so I am closing this thread" comment. I thought it was hilariously funny. I didn't see what I would consider an "insult" let alone an "assault." Anyone with skin that thin shouldn't even post on internet forums let alone run one. He'd last about 10 seconds on the AVS forum.

That being said, he is, of course welcome to his opinion and to express that opinion. However, he apparently is unwilling to grant the same freedom to anyone who disagrees with his opinion. Very sad.
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#281954 - 12/09/09 11:55 PM Re: More Misformation about Axiom's!!! [Re: Ajax]
Stereoguy99 Offline
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Hi: To say thin skinned is an understatement \:\/ .I've been banned from the site!! Oh well I stated on my first post that I listened to both the 60's V-5 AND the Axiom's which I thought and still do sounded better especially for the money.

I guess I'll just put up with all the rude people here with our"inferior" Axioms LOL \:D


Edited by Stereoguy99 (12/09/09 11:57 PM)
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#281956 - 12/10/09 12:07 AM Re: More Misformation about Axiom's!!! [Re: Stereoguy99]
Ajax Offline
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It pleases me to know that, though he can silence anyone who disagrees with him at his forum, over here he is impotent and we know he comes over here to read all the terrible things we're saying about him.
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#281959 - 12/10/09 01:47 AM Re: More Misformation about Axiom's!!! [Re: Ajax]
grunt Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Ajax

Anyone with skin that thin shouldn't even post on internet forums let alone run one. He'd last about 10 seconds on the AVS forum.

Why do you think he runs his own forum. It’s good to be King. ;\)

The greatest irony in this for me is that in over 3 years reading this forum I’ve seen some pretty outrageous hyperbole posted here by people with a grudge against Axiom or this forum and never once seen Axiom close or even moderate a thread. But this guy closes a thread based on posts over here. He would have looked a tad more mature if he had just left his reason for shutting it down that the OP had bailed and the thread went off topic and it was no longer relevant or productive and steered clear of the Narcissism
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#281972 - 12/10/09 07:47 AM Re: More Misformation about Axiom's!!! [Re: Stereoguy99]
davidsch Offline
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Now there is someone dying to get in the last word. How dare you disagree with the King!

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#282010 - 12/10/09 02:24 PM Re: More Misformation about Axiom's!!! [Re: davidsch]
Adrian Offline
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Weellll!! "The King" has banned me from his little castle too!! \:D

It would seem that when someone tries to help a poster to make an informed decision on a substancial purchase you must agree with the administrator.

I pointed out to the OP that he should consider Axioms if he was considering Paradigms as I did, as they are very similar sonically but that he could save a "not insubstancial" amount by choosing the Axioms over the P'digms.

"The King", fully entitled to his own opinion, tried to minimize my own in an immature and demeaning way by referring to me as a "first time poster" and pretty much called me a liar concerning the pricing of these two speakers(specifically Studio 100 vs M80s). I pointed out that there are many custom wood finishes for the M80s which do not exceed $2000 vs the $3000 +/- per pr. of Studio 100s (V5) that I was quoted by !!THREE!! different Paradigm dealers. Naturally he used Axiom's labour intensive "High Gloss Piano Rosewood" as his comparison, which is still a couple of hundred $'s less(more South of the Border).

He is entitled to his opinion, I have no problem with that, but he was misleading the OP in a couple of respects, those being the sonics of these speakers which can obviousy be debated, but, clearly he was misleading concerning pricing. I made a point of telling the OP that if you like either of these speakers, you pretty much inherently like the other.

As a sidenote, "The King" chose the affordable DSP3400 to go with his Studios....one would have thought he would have chosen the matching Studio Sub...Oh yeah, I forgot,they cost around 3-4 times what the DSP subs cost.

That's my 2 cents.

(2 cents Cad=approx 1.91 cents US)


Disclaimer.....some names have been changed to protect the guilty.
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