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#283403 - 12/22/09 10:11 AM Cheap thing no good...?
mpyw Offline
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Just got myself some Axiom banana plugs...these thing are heavy...there are like 4x more expensive than the monoprice banana plug I used (which the spring all became straight after a few months and get off hook easily), the monprice are very light, with my 11AWG cable in it, it can hold the weight very much, although from the website, it claim it can held up to 8AWG cables, these made the spring to fall back into the pin and become straight and the connection to the speakers is not perfect....

so, good thing does not come cheap and cheap thing is not that good...this will always be true....

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#283434 - 12/22/09 01:22 PM Re: Cheap thing no good...? [Re: mpyw]
Adrian Offline
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Loc: It's all about the location.
If you plug/unplug your speakers often, it's probably a good idea to go with better banana plugs like the Axiom ones. Mine are some of the cheaper ones from Monoprice, but I don't really move them(speakers) around at all so they've been fine so far.
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#283437 - 12/22/09 01:30 PM Re: Cheap thing no good...? [Re: Adrian]
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If you don't move or rewire your speakers often; why not use bare wire and forgo the banana plugs entirely?
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#283439 - 12/22/09 01:37 PM Re: Cheap thing no good...? [Re: ClubNeon]
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I used the monoprice banana plugs for the receiver end of all of my speaker wire. It did not have the spring. You just insert the wire into the bottom half of the plug, fold it back, and screw the top end of the plug down. Then you apply the supplied heatshrink. I think they work great. (Edit: it is possible they were purchased from bluejeans cable- i got some of my wire from monoprice and some from BJC, I forget which order had the banana plugs.)

I use bare wire connection to all of my speakers.


Edited by terzaghi (12/22/09 01:39 PM)
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#283442 - 12/22/09 01:44 PM Re: Cheap thing no good...? [Re: ClubNeon]
Adrian Offline
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Loc: It's all about the location.
I had them hard wired at first, as I was waiting on my banana plugs from Monoprice. Even if I went back to hardwiring, I'd still use the banana plugs at the AVR. It's awkward to bare wire at the reciever. When I say I don't move my speakers around, I mean I don't unplug them, I still tinker with location and toe-in at times.
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#283449 - 12/22/09 03:12 PM Re: Cheap thing no good...? [Re: Adrian]
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I even use bare wire at my receiver. But the back of my stand is completely open, and my Pioneer has 7 sets of well spaced, full size terminals. So it was easy.
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#283450 - 12/22/09 03:17 PM Re: Cheap thing no good...? [Re: ClubNeon]
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A receiver with well spaced, full size terminals? That's unpossible!
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#283451 - 12/22/09 03:38 PM Re: Cheap thing no good...? [Re: Ken.C]
ClubNeon Offline
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Pioneer broke the mold with this one: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/PUSA/Images/VSX-1018AH_REAR_800.jpg Just wish it had about a half-dozen more HDMI inputs (but I'm getting a video scaler for that). 7.1 pre- ins & outs too.
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#283473 - 12/22/09 06:02 PM Re: Cheap thing no good...? [Re: ClubNeon]
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They do not look much different than the ones on my Denon and I find it a bit of a pain to fit wire in there, mostly due to the placement of the avr but still hard to reach them, banana plugs for me as well.
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#283504 - 12/22/09 10:27 PM Re: Cheap thing no good...? [Re: mpyw]
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Michael, don't fall for that "You get what you pay for" nonsense. This is a slogan that sellers of high-priced goods and services love to trot out when they don't have any objective way of justifying themselves. There's little or no correlation between price and performance in most areas of audio.
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