Veneer peeling on corner. Help
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While moving my speakers around today i discovered that on the bottom rear corner of one of my speakers the venner is peeling. It has peeled about 1/8 inch or so, (am i picky ur what!)
What do you suggest i use to glue the corners back together and keep it from getting any worse? Super glue could get messy, and melt the venner, using contact glue like i believe is whats used would be kina pointless with such a small area. Small peice of clear tape would do it.. but look bad. Any Ideas?
On another note, tomorrow i'll be moving the entire room back to the way it was before.. lol. i have it on my long wall now, and it sounds more detailed, probbly because not as much side wall reflections.. but with space constraints.. or door openenings i should say, i cant have them nearly as far apart as they need to be, or away from the wall as far.
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That sucks. How long have you had them?
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Call Joe to find out the best glue for the job.
Vinyl gluing is like putting down flooring, same idea, but a bit more dexterity may be required.
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gonna have had em for a year this jan 3rd
i know its been like that for a while but it was brought to my attention again today. Its hardly even big enough to glue so i will probbly just leave it the way it is, but if it gets any bigger (shouldnt if i dont touch it) i will try something. Most people probbly woundt even notice it, or think anything of it, except i baby my speakers and when i see something like that i get worried about it lol
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Yeah, that would bug me, too. Anyone else have this issue? (Yes, I'll still buy Axioms, but I probably wouldn't go with the custom finish in that case.)
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Id say its not a problem with axioms finishing job, which is quite excellent. Just something that happens. especially with such a sharp corner on the floor like that. I also got the B stock spekers so that might have been one of the blemishes. at any rate maybe i will take a pic of it tomorrow so you can see how small it is.
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If it was a FO deal, then it is very possible that was the flaw.
I've only found one flaw so far out of the 3 speakers we purchased through the FO.
It was extremely minor.
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you may want to correct this before it peels more; believe you're in a moist climate, correct?
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it is more of a moist climate then most places i guess but theres not like mold growing on stuff or anything. Upon closer inspection it looks more like the edges are peeling the veneer in half rather then off of the cabinet. Its soo small that the only way id be able to glue it is to put some glue on a toothpick or needle or something. Heres a couple of pics. I might just use a uber small amount of super glue and dab it on there just to keep it from getting bigger, no need to bother joe over something like this.
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It looked to me like the corner was bumped at some point, slightly damaging the mdf and causing the vinyl to loose the structure it was bonded to. Particle type wood composites are very susceptible to moisture absorbtion and swelling which will cause further delamination. In your climate I would look at using a thin forulation of superglue applied very carefully to the mdf to seal and consolidate it. After first letting the superglue cure in the mdf, I would try regluing the vinyl with superglue. I would try using masking tape applied over the vinyl area you are trying to adhere so that the tape acts as kind of a "handle" to pull and hold the veneer into place without gluing my fingers to the vinyl. The tape would also help keep the glue off the face of the vinyl. To remove the tape I would peel it off starting from an edge farthest away from the repair and peel the tape off by pulling it back so it is folded over flat against the surface it is being peeled from. By pulling parallel to the surface rather than perpendicular you will avoud pulling the the veneer away from the suface it is glued to.
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You could try using that vinyl/leather repair *stuff* (sorry I don't remember the name) that you often see advertised on late night tv. You could probably get some at a local craft store.
Here is an example of the *stuff* : www.youcansave.com/llk.asp
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thanks for the reply's.. i fixed it though..
Used some tacky craft glue and dabbed in on with a needle and taped it in place until it could dry. looks decent now. especially being on the bottom corner nobody would notice it.
Its not dinged, looks like when they sanded the venner or whatever they do to it, they sanded just a little too much off. oh well!
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That's not bad Haoleb.
Much better than it was.
Lower corners always tend to get a little dinged anyway unless extra special care is taken or corner runners are put on.
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i guess I'll invest in an extra set of toddler corner bumpers for my speakers... Although the angles aren't 90 degrees on the Axioms. I knew box speakers had their benefits!
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Bumpers simply won't do. The black grilles on mine are coming loose on one 60 and my EP175. This is a direct result of our newest walker in the house using them as a prop to stand up against. Now I have to figure out how to fix the grilles.
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each loudspeaker has plastic connectors holding the grills in place. e-mail amie, and i bet she'll mail some to you.
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It isn't a plastic connection problem. They stay attached. The grille cloth is coming off the plastic grille. I don't believe that kid induced injuries are covered in the warranty.
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sorry, have you tried super glue?
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another thought..my wife sews a lot, and will use her glue gun to attach bobbles etc to fabric.
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Had the same problem with my M60s several months after they arrived. Noticed the fabric delaminating from the plastic grille. Sent photos to Amie and they replaced them. Not a kid related issue.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I suppose I should wait until the newest addition (Feb.) learns to do the walking thing before I go repairing/replacing anything.
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You could get one of those invisible electronic fences that are meant for dogs. Set up a perimiter around your speakers and then put the collars on the kids. If they cross the line, they get a friendly zap as a reminder not to go there...
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That's funny...invisible dog fence, please Santa!!
My wife says, "Why didn't you get those little square ones that go on the wall? You wouldn't have this problem if we had those". (sighs...)
My response..."The main thing we wouldn't have, would be decent sound." (double sigh back...)
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