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Re: help on sub choice
sm_tl #284579 12/31/09 06:21 AM
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Anything I can see on their website say that the subs are designed and engineered in the US but "Made in China". You can see this on the owners manual pics of the Bash Amps which they use, whether or not this pertains to just the amp or not I don't know. I always thought Bash amps were made in Canada But many people are stating in their forum that they are being charged duty fees which shouldn't happen if the amp was made i the US.


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Re: help on sub choice
jakewash #284610 12/31/09 02:36 PM
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Most of Hsu subs are made in China. The USL 15 is "Designed and Assembled in the U.S.A." and I'm sure all the components come from China.


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Re: help on sub choice
Wid #284668 12/31/09 06:03 PM
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Like any other electronic component today, one can be assured that the little components(transistors, capacitors etc) are made in the Far East including BASH amps which are manufactured by Indigo manufacturing in Toronto. According to NAFTA that qualifies as a domestic manufactured item. One has to differentiate between an item that is fully manufactured in China(Outlaw subs) and just sitting in a warehouse in the US for shipment elsewhere as opposed to a product that uses offshore parts but it is still assembled domestically. That would differentiate the HSU USL 15 as opposed to their other models that are TOTALLY manufactured overseas. In this case shipment of the USL 15 would qualify it as a domestic manufactured product and NOT subject to duties. When that sub was introduced, I was curious and e-mailed HSU about it and they said it would qualify as a domestic mfg. product. The same applies to Elemental Designs, Epik and Rhythmik subs. Axiom, I believe, is in a similar category. One just has to be sure it is on the paperwork and/or shipping carton so customs can see it. I have never had an issue with customs IF the shipping set-up was done correctly.

You kind of have to do your homework. Outlaw has a line of power amplifiers in which SOME are made in the US for them by ATI out of California(which would qualify as domestic mfg.)and they have a couple other models that are made exclusively in the Far East(which would not qualify).

It is interesting to note, I have an 8 year old Toshiba RPCRT that when the light box was opened up, I noticed ALL the little parts and circuit boards were manufactured in China and that was 2001. The monitor, though, was assembled in New Jersey so that would qualify as a US domestic manufactured product.

Re: help on sub choice
casey01 #284736 01/01/10 02:19 AM
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For me 'best bang for the buck' turned out to be the DIY route. You need to do your homework, but can end up with a GREAT sub (or subs) for less cash than you would spend on a commercial product.

Re: help on sub choice
BigHonu #284748 01/01/10 05:05 AM
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For DIY I want to buy a kit (ok not true DIY) from Elemental Designs


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Re: help on sub choice
sm_tl #284861 01/02/10 01:17 AM
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I think the HSU parts are made in Asia but assembled in USA or something like that..
Yeh, I hate that double shipping costs, then brokerage fees , then duty.
SVS has a Canadian distributor however again I have not heard there subs and can only go by what posts say. Same as HSU and AXIOM. thing is no it is not free trial on any of it, because if you don't like it you have to ship it back and testing three or four subs and sending them back costs.


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TroyD #284869 01/02/10 02:32 AM
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You can look into Aperions flagship subwoofer. They have a no risk trial period meaning they would pay for return shipping if you decide to return it, however I don't know if the actual shipping cost would be inflated outside the United States. I have no actual experience with their products but they do have a excellent trial period.


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BlueJays1 #284892 01/02/10 04:47 AM
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I love my SVS PB13 and feel it very hard to beat for output/sound quality vs price, I highly recommend it and from the sounds of it, the EP800 might be very hard to beat now that it has a new amp design.


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Re: help on sub choice
jakewash #284922 01/02/10 02:28 PM
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yeh, it maybeI am making a trip to Ontario this summer, so may have to see if it is possible to hear it. can't bring it back would need to rent a uhaul.


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Jay, if you ever stop down to Iowa, Elemental Designs is only a 30 min drive. \:\)


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