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The battery back up outlets are powering my denon 3808, lcd rp, ps3, xbox 360, and dvr. not all components are usually on at the same time.
The only thing plugged into the surge suppression ports are the ep500 and the cinema quest light.
am I at risk of frying the power supply for any of the items plugged into the battery outlets? Should I move anything off of the battery outlets and onto the surge only outlets?
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The Denon is border line, but if it's been OK, and never faulted it or the APC on power up, it'll be OK. Everything else is fine.
The problem has to do with the power supply design of the equipment and the size of the capacitors inside it. Large amps, which try not to limit current, and have a big capacitor bank are the problem. They have a massive inrush at start, and I don't know why, but many conditioners play with the voltage level in order to keep up, and then over-volt the PS, and then bad stuff starts to happen.
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Well this is all rather frustrating. I bought the unit to protect all of my equipment, as it's supposed to do, and has separate inputs designated for various devices, and now I find out that three of them possibly won't operate safely, or even malfunction.
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I am not that familiar with the APC units but assuming it has inputs specifically designed for high current amps, that should be OK " as long" as there is delay on/off timing functions for certain inputs on the power conditioner so you are not having to power everything on and off at the same time. The delay functions soften the power draw and help prevent speaker pops from the power amps.
If there aren't any on/off delay capabilities, then you could have a problem.
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Here's a link to the manual. It does state something like you mention, but if you guys wouldn't mind taking a quick look, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cam
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Interresting. I have something by Monster that is similar. Buying this caused me to examine my house wiring because my outlets are only 2 wire, without a ground. Today I had an electrician install a new circuit breaker (edit: breaker box) and new breakers. In my living room I had a heater that would always flip the breaker when I put it on high. He had some gizmo that clamped to the wire at the breaker and noticed my heater was drawing just over 15 amps, so he used a 20 amp breaker there.
I told him about what I had planned for HT and he said that sound equipment didn't draw very much power. So, in the same room as the heater on high, I started up my computer, turned all lights on, turned on my tv and receiver and played something really loud. This only increased the amp draw from 15 to 18 amps.
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For my Pf60 I hook the 3808 and sub up to the high draw outlets and the rest to the specified outlets, display, digital etc. It looks like the APC is similar, you should be OK.
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Interresting. I have something by Monster that is similar. Buying this caused me to examine my house wiring because my outlets are only 2 wire, without a ground. Today I had an electrician install a new circuit breaker (edit: breaker box) and new breakers. In my living room I had a heater that would always flip the breaker when I put it on high. He had some gizmo that clamped to the wire at the breaker and noticed my heater was drawing just over 15 amps, so he used a 20 amp breaker there.
I told him about what I had planned for HT and he said that sound equipment didn't draw very much power. So, in the same room as the heater on high, I started up my computer, turned all lights on, turned on my tv and receiver and played something really loud. This only increased the amp draw from 15 to 18 amps.
Cat, Did your electrician check the existing gauge of wiring in your house? I'm going off the top of my head now, but I think the National Electrical Code identifies that 14 gauge wire ampacity is only 15 amps, while 12 gauge is rated for 20 amps. If you have 14 gauge wire (or smaller) in the circuit, it could lead to the cabling overheating and possibly a fire. You should check.
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Cat,
I just checked the code, and the numbers I stated before were correct for a 3 conductor cable. Check to make sure that the circuit with the 20A breaker uses 12 gauge wire or larger (larger would be 10 gauge).
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You are not wrong, 20amp circuits require at least 12/2 wiring.
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