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Re: Cold weather...
Adrian #286562 01/12/10 11:02 PM
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Not really if you read it closely.


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Ken.C #286565 01/12/10 11:06 PM
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I read it as presenting both sides of a debate, with the answer likely in the middle somewhere. There is likely a combination of natural as well as man-made effects where the environment is concerned. As with all debates, numbers can be skewed to support one side's beliefs(or not).


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pmbuko #286571 01/13/10 12:09 AM
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 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
Mark, I wouldn't trust anything on junkscience.com that relates to climate or the environment, given the person behind it.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=JunkScience.com


OK. Throw out the source. I've seen the same info elsewhere, though. I can find some other sites for you if you don't feel like doing it yourself.

The actual communicative intent of my post remains: historically, CO2 levels and temperatures have been dramatically higher and lower than present time. Repeatedly. Nevertheless, life continues to thrive. The sky is not falling.

It's taking a lot of effort to undo the brainwashing of our younger generation. \:D

Re: Cold weather...
bigwill2 #286604 01/13/10 06:27 AM
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Climate change is a normal thing. It has been since the dawn of time. Why so many people beieve we should spend billions of $$$ in a futile effort to make things stay the same while costing the lives countless people from hunger and disease is totally beyond me. One world government based on a carbon-credit economy I guess! \:D
My solution . . . tshirt for warm days, sweater for colder and a jacket cold days. And if it gets REALLY hot . . . lots of beer. ;\)

Not to feel left out, I'll throw in another website address . . . Climate Depot

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Re: Cold weather...
80'sMan #286606 01/13/10 06:44 AM
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 Originally Posted By: 80’sMan

One world government based on a carbon-credit economy I guess! \:D


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grunt #286613 01/13/10 02:35 PM
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It's all about power and control.

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Adrian #286615 01/13/10 02:40 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
As with all debates, numbers can be skewed to support one side's beliefs(or not).


Figures don't lie, but liar's sure can figure.


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Sloped #286658 01/13/10 06:50 PM
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wow, this place has changed...






...or, has public opinion changed? ;\)

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bigwill2 #286669 01/13/10 07:54 PM
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Well, I'm still convinced that the weather patterns are definitely changing and not in a healthy way. Is it caused by man, just a passing natural phase or a result of both? I'm not sure we have the technology and knowledge to say for certain but when I try to build a mental picture of how many cars are driving around the world right now (including mine) and how many other sources on gasses that are not 'natural' to the history of the eco-system because they never existed at all or in these quantities before we started producing them..... I have a hard time believing from a totally subjective view, that we are not having some sort of effect.


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Murph #286681 01/13/10 08:22 PM
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Ironically, one of the worst contributors to this problem is from livestock, mainly cows.


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