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#287813 - 01/20/10 03:49 PM room correction (Audyssey & Trinnov) with QS4 QS8
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I'm wondering what the group's success and/or experience has been with digital room correction systems like Audyssey & Trinnov when used with the Axiom Surround speakers - QS4 / QS8.

My own experience is - ummm - nothing \:D yet. But I understand that the processor listens in with microphone(s) and identifies various characterists of the sound source. In the case of these surrounds, you have mutiple speakers elements sending out sound in a multitude of directions, with even more reflecting surfaces, etc...

So what happens to the room correction readings and the resulting "maps"? Does it even get a reading?

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#287818 - 01/20/10 04:00 PM Re: room correction (Audyssey & Trinnov) with QS4 QS8 [Re: axiomoholic]
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I love Audyssey, can't comment on Trinnov. It has nothing to do with the sound source, it has to do with your rooms characteristics (every room is different) and adjusting the system to give you the best performance possible. Audyssey has a suite of products, it would be best to read the overview.

http://www.audyssey.com/technology/index.html
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#287819 - 01/20/10 04:01 PM Re: room correction (Audyssey & Trinnov) with QS4 QS8 [Re: axiomoholic]
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Axiomaholic,

I am interested in this one too. My amp uses this sort of system for the setup too. When I get my speakers mounted on the weekend, I'll have a play around.

If anyone has already played with this sort of thing and has some views, please speak up.
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#287821 - 01/20/10 04:21 PM Re: room correction (Audyssey & Trinnov) with QS4 QS8 [Re: madjak]
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IMO these programs are flawed. Audyssey can't tell the difference between room and speaker deficiencies and will try to correct both. Well designed, linear speakers are in no need of these auto correction programs and room issues can be fixed with simple treatments.

My advice would be to still try audyssey with it on and off and see what you like best. What you like and thinks sounds best is all that matters in the end.
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#287824 - 01/20/10 04:33 PM Re: room correction (Audyssey & Trinnov) with QS4 QS8 [Re: BlueJays1]
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I feel that my room benefitted from running Audyssey, but I've not tried setting it up with an SPL meter or done much in the way of room treatments(thick rug over hardwood exception). People generally either love or hate Audyssey but I'd agree with what Doc says, give it a try and see if you like it.... it should get you in the ballpark.
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#287826 - 01/20/10 04:43 PM Re: room correction (Audyssey & Trinnov) with QS4 QS8 [Re: Adrian]
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I notice a huge difference for the better with Audyssey turned on. My room was treated by me with DIY acoustic panels and super chunk bass traps as well. Dr. have you actually tried Audyssey, and followed the correct setup instructions?

What is your factual basis to say it is flawed and that it can't accomplish what you say. I'm sure the creator of THX would love to have a chat with you. ;\)
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#287829 - 01/20/10 04:49 PM Re: room correction (Audyssey & Trinnov) with QS4 QS8 [Re: Adrian]
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thanks guys,

In my particular case, I'm playing with the new Trinnov. Here's a link to someone chatting about it: http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Sherwood-Newcastle-R-972-7-1-Channel-A-V-Surround-Receiver.shtml excerpt:"I hesitate to use the word "magic" -- this is, after all, based on solid acoustical science -- but I'm rather mystified by how natural the Trinnov Spatial Modes sound. It genuinely sounds like my front speakers are more than a foot to the left and right of their actual locations. The soundfield as a whole doesn't come off as even slightly processed."

I may go as Dr. House and keep it off, but it could be cool and I definetelty plan to play with it. However, back to origional question: which is not so much, is room correction good or bad, but does room correction work with the QS4's. I'd like some sense of result before I order.

Adrian - you mentioned some benefit from Audyssy - is that with QS4 or QS8's? Did you have any trouble getting a "read" on test tones coming from those speakers?

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#287831 - 01/20/10 04:58 PM Re: room correction (Audyssey & Trinnov) with QS4 QS8 [Re: axiomoholic]
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There is no harm in trying it out axiomholic. I would recommend doing critical analysis with Trinnov turned on and off (these programs add to the cost of the unit, mine as well try it). Its impossible to say what (if any) benefits this program will have. Every room is different, and there is also so many different variables involved in every setup.
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#287832 - 01/20/10 05:01 PM Re: room correction (Audyssey & Trinnov) with QS4 QS8 [Re: BlueJays1]
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Sorry folks,

I think I got confused, I was thinking of the auto surround calibration function with Recievers where you plug in a mic and put it where you sit and the amp calibrates itself.

Has a\nyone had much luck with QS8s with this mechanism?
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#287833 - 01/20/10 05:02 PM Re: room correction (Audyssey & Trinnov) with QS4 QS8 [Re: madjak]
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As far as I know, no one's had any problem with the QS8s with this.
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