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Starting Over
#28912 12/27/03 09:38 PM
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After waiting for 2 months to decide on a system for my 15x17 room i went with the hk 525, 4 m22s and svs 25-31pci. Now it is time to start over. Before recieving any of the system i thought the one piece i might return was the hk 525. Well the only piece i am not returning is the hk 525.
Apparently 4 channel stereo does not sound twice as good as two channel stereo:). So i am going to be sending back at least two m22s, but possibly all of them for an m60. Furthermore, the subwoofer is broken. I dont think i am keeping it anyways because it is too big- the actual height of a 25-31 is 32.5 inches, 32.5 inches will not fit under my 32 inch desk:(

So, i am back at the begining. For the most part i will be only listening to music for now(eventually i will get 5.1). Should i go with m60? m60 and VTF-2/STF-2? m22 and VTF-2/STF-2? or should i just return everything and pick up a new less expensive hobby like model trains?

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Re: Starting Over
#28913 12/28/03 12:56 AM
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Have you considered taking up philately?

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#28914 12/28/03 02:26 AM
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My two cents:

Send them all back. Get the M60's and STF-2. I think that would be a better music system all the way around and cost less.

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Keep a pair of M22's, send the other pair and the SVS back, get the STF-2.

Re: Starting Over
#28915 12/28/03 05:00 AM
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Did you try out DVD-A or SACD, they would sound great with that system, considering you get another M22 or center channel for it. That would sound awesome on your system.

Otherwise, I agree, M60 + HSU. SVS does also makes Box subs, so check them out vs the cylinder subs. And SVS box subs come in different finishes.

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#28916 12/28/03 06:03 AM
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Have you considered taking up philately?
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Hmmm. Sounds like an idea. Upgraditis also will not be as much of a problem. I am pretty sure i can get the top model right now. It will be the best 34 cent investment i have ever made.

But as for the speakers issue, which is better for music-the STF or the VTF. I know the VTF can be tuned differently, but how important is that for music listening?
Also, is it worth going from a 470 dollar m22(i bought FMBs) to an 800 dollar m60 even if i own a good sub? If i get the m60 i can return the FMBs

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Re: Starting Over
#28917 12/28/03 07:37 AM
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I have the STF-2 and it is a great sub. Nice, clean bass, just what I like.

Re: Starting Over
#28918 12/28/03 04:26 PM
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If you are listening to music only, for now, might you consider just a pair of M60s with, dare I suggest, no sub?!? A bass guitar low E note is about 41 Hz. The M60 will reproduce down to 37 Hz.
I really love my HK AVR-525, and that is all I will say about that...Good luck

Re: Starting Over
#28919 12/28/03 07:20 PM
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Love my 525 also. My friend's jaw dropped when he heard the STF-2 the other day(in town for the Christmas). He could not beleive how clean and deep it was, for $400. He even laughed before hearing it when I told them HSU got CompUSA to sell their subs. Then he ate crow after hearing it.

The best is when I told him i had the sub only at 50%. He asked me to turn it up, I did. No sounds of the woofer under stress, still ultra clean bass at an insane volume.

I'd keep the Axiom set up you have and get the STF-2 sub. That leaves you only a center channel away from a theater, something you say you will go to in the future. I do not see the need to send everything back, eat all the shipping costs, etc.

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#28920 12/28/03 07:51 PM
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I decided i will pay the shipping charges and return everything for an m60. It is in my budget, and i actually save money by returning 4 FMBs and 4 m22s for an m60

will the stf-2 rock the house? The one sticking point i have on the STF is everyone who talks about SVS says it demolishes every piece of movable furniture in the house. People who talk about the STF says its a really nice sub. See the difference? Has anyone heard both? The reason i ask is because they are sending me a new 25-31pci on monday and it should get here by friday(free shipping since it was broken when it got here). But if i call them on monday and tell them no thanks, and use the electronic shipping tag they gave me over email(allows me to send the broken SVS back free of charge) i will never be able to hear an SVS.



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Re: Starting Over
#28921 12/28/03 08:31 PM
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Do you want a sub that demolishes everything? It is one thing to be able to play loud, but also being able to be accurate and tight with music is different.

If you want it get louder....then wait for the STF-3.

My two cents on a sub - music first! Much harder for a sub to do music well than it is for it to play loud.

Here is a recent write-up on the Hsu VTF-3. All the Hsu subs follow the same values.

http://www.goodsound.com/equipment/hsu_vtf3.htm

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