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#291536 - 02/09/10 07:13 PM Re: Front projector question... [Re: RickF]
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A little ambient light is ok Rick, you don't want to stub your toe on something. \:\)
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#291542 - 02/09/10 07:33 PM Re: Front projector question... [Re: SirQuack]
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I've been on several good trips in broad daylight Randy ... 'been a while though. \:D
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#291551 - 02/09/10 09:13 PM Re: Front projector question... [Re: RickF]
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 Originally Posted By: RickF
Phil I've been comparing the Panasonic PT-AE400U and the Epson PowerLite 8500UB.


Of those two the Epson will be brighter, both in fully calibrated mode as well as max lumen mode.

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#291596 - 02/10/10 02:45 AM Re: Front projector question... [Re: ]
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I bet you would have never guessed I am an Epson owner too LOL a couple of years old now.

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#291611 - 02/10/10 08:59 AM Re: Front projector question... [Re: RickF]
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Hi Rick,
I actually just installed the Panasonic PT-AE4000 in a new HT build for my in-laws (no Axioms - though I tried!). I am a noob when it comes to projectors and I know nothing about the Epson, but if there's any specific questions I can answer on the Panny feel free to PM me. For what it's worth, here are my initial impressions (on a 120" anamorphic Stewart Firehawk screen) :

- when 1st ceiling mounted, it was tough to find the menu item to flip the image cuz the whole menu was upside down too. That was actually a laugh for the 1st 10 minutes!

- image quality is good, but does suffer when ambient light increases too much. We knew that going in, but we also have good control of the lighting conditions

- with ambient light low, image quality is great - really nice colour - although black levels/detail still don't compare favourably with a good plasma

- fan noise is very quiet in eco mode, I find it too loud if not in eco-mode (projector is ceiling mounted between 2 rows of seating)

- I love the feature of it automatically detecting the input signal and switching between 16:9 and anamorphic settings. That is just too cool when you switch from the movie menu to the actual movie and 10 seconds later the whole image zooms to fill the screen without touching a button!

- annoyed that it does not seem to have discrete power codes and input selection codes available for the Harmony, but I am working on this with Logitech support, so it might be resolvable

- black casing looks very nice IMHO

- user guide sucks at describing what the features actually do - i am still figuring stuff out by trial and error 3 weeks later

- not specific to the Panny, but I have learned to try and avoid ceiling mounting in a basement if possible due to floor joist vibrations when there's heavy footed walkers (or my kids!) upstairs, though that can have added artistic impressions to actions sequences with the whole image shaking along

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#291616 - 02/10/10 09:21 AM Re: Front projector question... [Re: cb919]
RickF Offline
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Thanks Dan, that's the kind of real time information I like to read about ... as the time draws closer I may just have a few questions for you.
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#291618 - 02/10/10 09:41 AM Re: Front projector question... [Re: RickF]
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No problem. Of course I doubt the basement celing mount is a concern for you in sunny Florida!
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#291620 - 02/10/10 09:43 AM Re: Front projector question... [Re: cb919]
RickF Offline
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No we don't have that problem, unfortunately.
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#291628 - 02/10/10 10:31 AM Re: Front projector question... [Re: cb919]
alan Offline

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Hi Rick,

If you are a purist, all front projection images look relatively terrible with ambient light present. You can certainly see the image and enjoy a program while chatting with friends, pouring drinks and the like, but in terms of black levels, contrast, richness of color and so on, front-projected images with ambient light present are lousy compared to those viewed in a dark room.

I recall a Panasonic demo a year or so ago of their new projector, at CES, and the Panasonic rep had the light on in the viewing theater while he was extolling the wonderful image quality (NOT) behind him. I thought at the time, doesn't this idiot realise how terrible it looks?

If you have proper light control in the room, then great, you can adjust room lighting for the occasion.

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#291631 - 02/10/10 11:23 AM Re: Front projector question... [Re: alan]
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The Emir of Electronics is right. Good light control is a must. If there are any windows in the viewing room, make sure they're heaviliy curtained if you plan for daytime viewing.
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