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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
grunt #294157 02/27/10 07:46 AM
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Am I the only one here to annoy people?

Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
CV #294158 02/27/10 07:59 AM
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I’m pretty sure I annoy certain people, does that count?


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CV #294159 02/27/10 08:09 AM
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I really don't know what to say here. I've been an AV123 customer since 2005. I think they make wonderful products(when working---just don't rely on those amps ;\) ) I am saddened, but not surprised by the news.

If you got room for one more on your team let me know. \:\)


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richeydog #294160 02/27/10 08:29 AM
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Funny I had only just noticed a month ago that you were a member over at AV123 when I happened to be lurking over there. Looks like you’ve been here a lot longer than most of us so I’m not sure who should be inviting whom to the party. I got a kick out of your new avatar over there, I just saw it earlier.

I’ve read good reviews of many of there products from people who’s opinions I’ve come to respect. While I admit a certain sadistic satisfaction watching some of the most rabid fanboys get their comeuppance I would hate to see the company fail. Many people deserve the products owed to them and no one in the AV customer community wins by reducing competition. However, it’s hard to see them weathering this storm considering the already bad economy, their subwoofer problems and now the goodwill they are bound to loose over this. MLS and his hardcore fanbase were IMO a driving force in the companies success, hard to see how that continues unless maybe he wins the court case or it gets thrown out. Maybe it can re-brand itself but I’m not sure the present business model is going to be viable for them.


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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
grunt #294161 02/27/10 08:43 AM
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 Originally Posted By: grunt
Funny I had only just noticed a month ago that you were a member over at AV123 when I happened to be lurking over there. Looks like you’ve been here a lot longer than most of us so I’m not sure who should be inviting whom to the party. I got a kick out of your new avatar over there, I just saw it earlier.

I’ve read good reviews of many of there products from people who’s opinions I’ve come to respect. While I admit a certain sadistic satisfaction watching some of the most rabid fanboys get their comeuppance I would hate to see the company fail. Many people deserve the products owed to them and no one in the AV customer community wins by reducing competition. However, it’s hard to see them weathering this storm considering the already bad economy, their subwoofer problems and now the goodwill they are bound to loose over this. MLS and his hardcore fanbase were IMO a driving force in the companies success, hard to see how that continues unless maybe he wins the court case or it gets thrown out. Maybe it can re-brand itself but I’m not sure the present business model is going to be viable for them.


Yeah Dean I've been a member at Axiom since May 04'. I've got you beat. \:D

For those who don't know, I bought my first pair of internet speakers(M22's) from here. It was a gamble not knowing what to expect but I was delighted by them. I then foolishly caught the upgrade bug and sent them back to Axiom in exchange for a pair of M60's, which I kept for 8+ months. Not very long I know. lol

In retrospect maybe I should have kept those M22's and built a system around them...

You are probably right about the current AV123 business model. I don't see how they can continue to keep their head above water with the recent news. This is the internet after all. Word travels fast.

Last edited by richeydog; 02/27/10 09:04 AM.

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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
richeydog #294162 02/27/10 09:01 AM
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 Originally Posted By: richeydog

In retrospect maybe I should have kept those M22's and built a system around them.


When I got a pair of M22s to try out as surround back speakers I felt the same way about my M80s wish I had just gotten the M22s instead, but since by that point I had 3 M80s so I figured it was too late. Even though I chose to use the QS8s as rears I just couldn’t send the M22s back. Now that I’m in the house and can turn up the volume I appreciate the M80s a lot more and use them for a lot of my 2ch listening.

Yeah, I just saw a link that USA Today picked it up though it’s just a tiny blurb.


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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
CV #294166 02/27/10 01:40 PM
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 Originally Posted By: CV
Am I the only one here to annoy people?

Helloooooo?

Sitting right heeeeere! \:\)


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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
grunt #294167 02/27/10 01:43 PM
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 Originally Posted By: grunt

Many people deserve the products owed to them and no one in the AV customer community wins by reducing competition.


I don't see this at all. Actually the complete opposite. Business's that defraud consumers, have consistent quality isssues and deliver late to their customers simply don't deserve to be in business. Its actually a disservice to consumers to promote or support them.

While the market structure probably could be best described as monopolistic, aggressive pricing might attract some consumers away from the competition, however it should have little overall effect on the competitive behaviour of other fims and market demand because their market power is low relative to the entire industry.

My view is they should fail, which could allow the possibility of other companies (that are reputable) to enter the market.


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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
BlueJays1 #294170 02/27/10 02:14 PM
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Yeah, Mark, I saw you sitting right there \:\)

Of course as careful as you can be - I joined in July '04 after a friend recommended Axiom - there are no guarantees. I bought my Big Screen TV from a reputable B&M rather than going with cheaper internet alternatives.......Circuit City.


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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
grunt #294180 02/27/10 04:42 PM
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 Originally Posted By: grunt
I’m just here for the pictures Cam posts. ;\)

Does that make Cam the unofficial Axiom pimp? Its time to go hat shopping Cam...


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