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#294568 - 03/01/10 11:30 AM bi-wireing
patwho Offline
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Hello, Are there anyone that bi-wires their m-80's. Do they sound better.thanks

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#294570 - 03/01/10 11:38 AM Re: bi-wireing [Re: patwho]
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I'm sure there are some people who do, but no they don't sound better.
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#294574 - 03/01/10 12:00 PM Re: bi-wireing [Re: ClubNeon]
Murph Offline
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Hello Patwho, That's a good question, considering many high end speakers tantalize you with the extra binding posts right from the get go.

Unfortunately, from an electrical standpoint. Bi-wiring does absolutely nothing. There is nothing to gain except spending more on cables.

Also beware of the term, bi-amping. Many people utilize the second outputs on their receiver and two sets of wires thinking that they are "bi-amping" when again, there is no net gain. True bi-amping requires a device with separate power supplies & a built in, adjustable crossover and also, involves hacking the inside of your speaker to remove the speaker's native crossover component.

Edit: anticipating next question.
Why does axiom provide 2 sets of speaker posts then? Well, the market kind of expects it for those who want to do it anyways and also for those who might be willing to hack up the speaker to bi-amp properly.


Edited by Murph (03/01/10 12:05 PM)
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#294594 - 03/01/10 02:24 PM Re: bi-wireing [Re: Murph]
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that is why we call it "buy-wiring", lol...
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#294660 - 03/01/10 07:02 PM Re: bi-wireing [Re: SirQuack]
Potatohead Offline
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Haha, he said "bi"

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#294772 - 03/02/10 08:06 PM Re: bi-wireing [Re: Potatohead]
Micah Offline
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So Axiom has given in to a product myth even though the extra set of binding posts are as useless as titts on a hog? Why don't they go ahead and wire them up with unobtanium wire wrapped in NASA grade space foam to keep out any and all interference? Beef up those cross-overs with some Solid State approved caps? Then fit them with anti-gravity, levitating stands to negate grounding issue's? Hey I know, why doesn't Axiom just throw their tweeters into little 2 x 2 inch cube's to hang around the room?

Nah, said it ain't so Ian, are those four binding posts truely a gimmick? There must be SOME good reason for them. Enlighten us, please. \:\)
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#294781 - 03/02/10 08:48 PM Re: bi-wireing [Re: Micah]
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I suppose you can't blame the guy in the Axiom newsletter for asking about bi-amping...if I was a 'believer' (in bi-wiring, bi-amping I'm not interested in) , I'd wonder why the 4 posts were designed in to the speaker if Alan says...don't bother.

But... since I'm not, it matters not to me. \:\)


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#294784 - 03/02/10 08:51 PM Re: bi-wireing [Re: Spoiler]
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I think this question as been asked a thousand times, I'm to lazy to use the search feature for others.
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#294786 - 03/02/10 08:57 PM Re: bi-wireing [Re: SirQuack]
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I think I remember reading something about industry standard, consumer demand, something along those lines. Too lazy,too. \:D
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#294837 - 03/03/10 12:58 AM Re: bi-wireing [Re: Spoiler]
Micah Offline
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Indeed I'm sure you have S.Q. I know once I'd been on this site for 12 months straight I'd heard EVERY question a thousand times.

Still, I can't blame a guy for wanting to talk it out. Search engines are for people with time to kill. Not movers and shakers like our old friend Pat! ;\)

Oh, and for the record I'm not mad at Axiom for adding useless frills either. The customer is always right even when they haven't a clue as to what they're talking about. \:D
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