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Is this considered a significant difference?

From a 2002 review of the M80T1 ... (Almost Excellent!)


And from Axiom's current page on the M80v2 ...

No, those two are almost identical, but they are different from the original one from SoundStage found in the first post of this thread:

http://axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads....true#Post289453

Sorry, haven't figured out how to attach an image yet...

Aren't those graphs 2x6 posted for the M3Ti's and not the M80Ti's?

All I did was google Axiom M80Ti frequency graphs and the above article with the pictured graph came up ... I am merely the messenger.

Kill him! KILL HIM!

Scroll further down and you will see that 2x6 posted the M80Ti graph as well...unless I'm mistaken...OK, now I gotta go back and check myself...

OK, just checked and the M80Ti graph is still there, whew

Oh OK I see now, that's strange ... it's certainly different than those that were posted in the article from '02. Maybe that's why a published timeline of the different versions and upgrades would be a good idea?

Hi all,

I sent Asher a PM asking for the serial numbers of his "ti" M80s but no response so far, so I'm posting here.

With the serial numbers, we can check at the plant to see if his "ti" M80 already has the changed crossover.

Believe me, if you are a critical listener, there IS a difference between the original M80ti and the later version (Summer/Fall 2003); large enough that when we did double-blind listening tests between the old "ti" M80 and the new "ti"--almost everyone at Axiom participated in the tests--the new "ti" crossover won, and it became a much smoother and more linear speaker, especially in the midrange, which I was very critical of when I joined Axiom. So the new crossover was introduced Summer 2003 and along with other mechanical changes, the new M80s were renamed the v2 in 2005.

You can't just judge the sound quality of a speaker on one on-axis anechoic frequency response curve; it's really a matter of looking at the overall family of curves and making a judgment call. Sometimes just 1 dB of difference in the midrange, where our hearing is most sensitive, in the on-axis and off-axis curves, will make a surprisingly large change in the sound of the speaker in the listening tests.

Regards,

Alan

Thanks Alan, so any M80Ti/v2 manufactured after the summer/fall of 2003 should be darn near identical sonically to the M80v2's manufactured today I presume.

Good news!