Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater Outlaw Model 997 cancelled

HDMI 1.4 isn't needed by most/all of us right now, but I guess if you are going to start making a new receiver or pre/pro you might as well use that as the starting point, unfortunately 1.4x or 1.5 will most likely be out by the time the unit makes it to market.

I think the manufacturers are off the mark trying to bring 3D TV out, I feel it is just too gimmicky an idea, it is fun at the theater but in my house I just want to watch a movie; besides the masses haven't even moved to flatscreens/BR yet!

Very good post, Micah. I agree with all of it, although I'm a bit farther back on the tech curve than you are.

Just saw this . Just what I want to spend $450 on just to watch a 3d movie in my own house, let alone the cost of the 3d player, $399 and TV ($?), no thanks. I will let those early adopters continue to shoulder the costs till they get prices WAY down.

I had needed a new processor a few months ago and managed to wait until the first Sherwood Newcastle R-972s started shipping. They were having so many problems out of the gate I decided to wait. As someone at AVS said that when is shows up as available on Axiom’s web site then they know it will be ready for prime time. I got tired of waiting and got the Onkyo. So a couple three years from now when I want another new processor maybe the Outlaw or someone else’s version will be ready.

Amps are easy compared to processors.

Subs are easy compared to loudspeakers.

Editing is easy compared to composing.

I love NOT being on the bleeding edge.

I'd like it if AVR companies just went completely modular (based on ISA). Let's offload the processing to our CPU processors and put boards in for all the other stuff. Then, out to an amp.

Probably be a while, but that would be a powerful and flexible solution.

I just hope the Outlaws can survive this fiasco. The coolest feature I've seen in the HDMI 1.4 spec is the inclusion of an internet connection. When most devices these days either benefit from or require one then adding ethernet both reduces the number of cables required and eliminates the need for more ports on your home's router.

I see this 3D push as nothing more than a FAD. Even when glasses are no longer required to view it, I'm certain that it will still make some people nauseous. I'll stick with my 5.1 audio, DVDs and Bloreis for now.

I for one am looking forward to HDMI 1.4 with a net connection. And will get an AVR when available. All the gear I have has a network connection and I can't believe the amount of cables in my rack. Just a bunch of HDMI connects and some speaker wires and Im in. Ill have to replace a bunch of equipment over the long run, but still think its a good move

A few thoughts:
When I got the email yesterday, I was also thinking "it's about time".

I think they should offer the Integra Pre-Pro so that buyers can have a full solution without going somewhere else.

And, on the 3-D thing.....
I've been keeping an eye out for a new TV for a couple of months now. I keep hearing about 3-D this, 3_d that in the last several months. CES was all about 3-D, my latest issue of one of the magazines is all about 3-D.....

I told myself that I might make it a point to buy a non-3-D-capable TV when the prices drop, 'cuz I don't need no stinkin' 3-D gimmick...

But yesterday, at a pro video trade show, JVC was showing a U2 concert in 3D on a moderate screen....probably 46".... and it was freakin' awesome! Not gimmicky at all, I felt it just might be the difference between a TV that reproduces the world v. one that just seems like a "window" to the world. In short...REALLY impressive... and did I mention it didn't seem at all gimmicky?

I think that as long as some programmers are starting to commit to 3-D programming, I just might hold off on that new TV....

3D is all about debt perception... if you continue to buy new stuff, your debts are going to be perceived...

I very much have to agree with this.

How often do companies like Sony think the general masses turn around their home VIDEO gear anyway?
Every other year?
People keep tvs for 10-15 years. Most don't have the financial capability to keep buying the latest and greatest of something that costs over 2k each year.

Digital broadcasting just made a recent leap leaving people with the old analog setups having to buy something new or get another set top box. Some people i know just caved in and tossed their old CRTs and bought a relatively small, new LCD tv (26", $500, doesn't have 1080 resolution, no HDMI).
THEN there is the influx of big screen tvs, with 4:3 ratios yes i know of people with these tvs who now of course want widescreen instead).
THEN, we have all this widescreen that is rolled out.
THEN the high definition was the biggest thing, first 720p (some pricier units could get you 1080i like ours, bought in 2002), and now 1080p.
THEN flat screens was the next advance. Now people (including myself) are contemplating getting rid of the old massive CRTs for a LCD.
THEN the LCD improved from 60Hz to 120Hz, to 240Hz (and plasma improved and LED came out...improving on glitches and downfalls with each advance).
NOW new HDMI connections, Bluray instead of DVD, and next up, 3D meaning NEW Bluray ver. 2 player required, new TV required, etc. etc.

So many advances in so little time (say 10 years?) and the big companies are actually going to push this stuff?

I know personally i won't be having 3D tv or a player in our house for a LONGGGG time.
I doubt i'll miss the glasses any.

Someone wake me up when they finally come out with a solid revision of a holographic tv system and then i'll replace my present widescreen tv.